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The potential tie breakers with Cleveland
« on: March 26, 2017, 04:51:48 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2017, 05:07:45 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2017, 07:05:29 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.


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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2017, 07:28:37 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.


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Re: The potential tie breakers with Cleveland
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 06:25:24 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 07:48:07 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 08:59:40 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

If we go 7-1 and they go 5-4, then no one will own the tiebreaker because there won't be a tie.  /u/dangercart summed it up well on the Boston Celtics' subreddit: because the Cavs lost to the Spurs, it is officially impossible for the Celtics to win the conference on a tiebreaker.  Any situation that leaves us and Cleveland tied at the end of the season means that they have a better conference record (and it's also possible for them to win the head-to-head).

We'll either win the conference outright or the Cavs will win it.  As long as we win as many games as the Cavs (or more) from here on out, we win the conference (also assuming that we don't lose so many games that the Wizards or Raptors pass us), but it won't be on a tiebreaker
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 09:33:00 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

If we go 7-1 and they go 5-4, then no one will own the tiebreaker because there won't be a tie.  /u/dangercart summed it up well on the Boston Celtics' subreddit: because the Cavs lost to the Spurs, it is officially impossible for the Celtics to win the conference on a tiebreaker.  Any situation that leaves us and Cleveland tied at the end of the season means that they have a better conference record (and it's also possible for them to win the head-to-head).

We'll either win the conference outright or the Cavs will win it.  As long as we win as many games as the Cavs (or more) from here on out, we win the conference (also assuming that we don't lose so many games that the Wizards or Raptors pass us), but it won't be on a tiebreaker

Good catch. I was just throwing out a number where we'd win our remaining head to head matchup AND have the better conference record, without even considering the need for a tied record in the first place.

What do you think we'll need to go the rest of the way to ensure the first seed? I still say unless we completely implode, the winner of the final head to head matchup will determine the first seed.

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 10:35:38 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

If we go 7-1 and they go 5-4, then no one will own the tiebreaker because there won't be a tie.  /u/dangercart summed it up well on the Boston Celtics' subreddit: because the Cavs lost to the Spurs, it is officially impossible for the Celtics to win the conference on a tiebreaker.  Any situation that leaves us and Cleveland tied at the end of the season means that they have a better conference record (and it's also possible for them to win the head-to-head).

We'll either win the conference outright or the Cavs will win it.  As long as we win as many games as the Cavs (or more) from here on out, we win the conference (also assuming that we don't lose so many games that the Wizards or Raptors pass us), but it won't be on a tiebreaker

Good catch. I was just throwing out a number where we'd win our remaining head to head matchup AND have the better conference record, without even considering the need for a tied record in the first place.

What do you think we'll need to go the rest of the way to ensure the first seed? I still say unless we completely implode, the winner of the final head to head matchup will determine the first seed.

I think 6 wins would get us the top seed regardless of how the game against Cleveland goes. If Cleveland rests guys, then even less. If we beat them and they rest people, 5 wins would probably do it (since they'd need to go 6-2 in the games not against us, very unlikely if they're resting people)

If we get the wins we should against the Bucks (x2), Hornets, Magic, Nets, and Knicks I think we lock it down
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 12:52:09 AM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

If we go 7-1 and they go 5-4, then no one will own the tiebreaker because there won't be a tie.  /u/dangercart summed it up well on the Boston Celtics' subreddit: because the Cavs lost to the Spurs, it is officially impossible for the Celtics to win the conference on a tiebreaker.  Any situation that leaves us and Cleveland tied at the end of the season means that they have a better conference record (and it's also possible for them to win the head-to-head).

We'll either win the conference outright or the Cavs will win it.  As long as we win as many games as the Cavs (or more) from here on out, we win the conference (also assuming that we don't lose so many games that the Wizards or Raptors pass us), but it won't be on a tiebreaker

Good catch. I was just throwing out a number where we'd win our remaining head to head matchup AND have the better conference record, without even considering the need for a tied record in the first place.

What do you think we'll need to go the rest of the way to ensure the first seed? I still say unless we completely implode, the winner of the final head to head matchup will determine the first seed.

I think 6 wins would get us the top seed regardless of how the game against Cleveland goes. If Cleveland rests guys, then even less. If we beat them and they rest people, 5 wins would probably do it (since they'd need to go 6-2 in the games not against us, very unlikely if they're resting people)

If we get the wins we should against the Bucks (x2), Hornets, Magic, Nets, and Knicks I think we lock it down

The Celtics lost to teams like the 76ers and Suns. Nearly lost to Brooklyn too. None of these are a cake-walk, unfortunately. Need to have everyone start and no rest.


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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »

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 We beat The Cavs once already. How many times have we played them this year, and if it's even what's the next tie breaker used. Conference record?

Cavs lead series 2-1. If Celtics win the final game the series will be tied at 2-2 with the tiebreaker being conference record. Right now the Cavs have the slight edge over the Celtics in conference record being 31-12 for the Cavs and 30-13 for the Celtics. That game on April 5th can very well determine who wins the 1st seed since these conference records are tight.

So, since both teams only have in-conference games remaining, Cleveland holds that tiebreaker, correct?

Just depends on how many both teams win. If we win 7 of 8, including our final game with them, and they win 5 of 9 or something like that, then we'll own the tiebreaker, but we HAVE to win our final game against them, otherwise they get it via winning the head to head matchups 3-1.

If we go 7-1 and they go 5-4, then no one will own the tiebreaker because there won't be a tie.  /u/dangercart summed it up well on the Boston Celtics' subreddit: because the Cavs lost to the Spurs, it is officially impossible for the Celtics to win the conference on a tiebreaker.  Any situation that leaves us and Cleveland tied at the end of the season means that they have a better conference record (and it's also possible for them to win the head-to-head).

We'll either win the conference outright or the Cavs will win it.  As long as we win as many games as the Cavs (or more) from here on out, we win the conference (also assuming that we don't lose so many games that the Wizards or Raptors pass us), but it won't be on a tiebreaker

Good catch. I was just throwing out a number where we'd win our remaining head to head matchup AND have the better conference record, without even considering the need for a tied record in the first place.

What do you think we'll need to go the rest of the way to ensure the first seed? I still say unless we completely implode, the winner of the final head to head matchup will determine the first seed.

I think 6 wins would get us the top seed regardless of how the game against Cleveland goes. If Cleveland rests guys, then even less. If we beat them and they rest people, 5 wins would probably do it (since they'd need to go 6-2 in the games not against us, very unlikely if they're resting people)

If we get the wins we should against the Bucks (x2), Hornets, Magic, Nets, and Knicks I think we lock it down

The Celtics lost to teams like the 76ers and Suns. Nearly lost to Brooklyn too. None of these are a cake-walk, unfortunately. Need to have everyone start and no rest.

And the Cavs lost to teams like the Mavericks and to the Bulls 3 times.  The Warriors have lost to teams like the Timberwolves and the Lakers.  Even the Spurs have lost to teams like Suns and Knicks.  Every team has off games, losing to the Suns without Horford or to the 76ers without IT doesn't make us a bad team. 

We're a combined 11-1 against the teams I listed (the one loss coming against the Knicks), so winning all of those games is definitely not out of the question.  We'll be heavily favored in all of those games, and the Hawks game as well.

I expect that we win 5 of the 6, though, and beat either Cleveland or the Hawks (possibly both) to secure the top spot
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