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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2017, 02:19:31 PM »

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He is just practicing his shot, i believe he will be fine
But yes come playoffs he can;t shoot as many as now

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2017, 10:42:10 PM »

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Alright this is getting ridiculous!!! Doesn't Smart know that he can't shoot??!!!?? How the hell does he have 15 attempts in a game. Yes he makes plays that impact winning but he also wastes a lot of possessions by taking errant shots. Smart should have no more than 7 attempts in ANY game.... those shots would be better taken by Crowder, Bradley, JJ or KO... and it's not just this game... every close loss it aches when you look at the box score and see Smart with 10+ shots making less than 30%... he definitely has a place on a championship team, but scoring isn't it.

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2017, 11:35:37 AM »

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Alright this is getting ridiculous!!! Doesn't Smart know that he can't shoot??!!!?? How the hell does he have 15 attempts in a game. Yes he makes plays that impact winning but he also wastes a lot of possessions by taking errant shots. Smart should have no more than 7 attempts in ANY game.... those shots would be better taken by Crowder, Bradley, JJ or KO... and it's not just this game... every close loss it aches when you look at the box score and see Smart with 10+ shots making less than 30%... he definitely has a place on a championship team, but scoring isn't it.

Yeah, it's getting ridiculous at this point.  Smart may well end up costing the Celtics dearly in the playoffs if this continues (which it will.)
In the offseason I would really love to see Ainge ship Smart & Thomas off to another sucker I mean team, even if it means taking a step back for a season.  In the long run it will be better for the team.  We won't have to worry whether or not our lottery rookies are being bullied & harrassed by Smart, either.

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2017, 12:07:19 PM »

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The last play of the game last night against the Bucks was egregious "hero ball."  His inbounds pass gets tipped and he grabs the loose ball, but there was still three seconds left. 

Avery Bradley is standing wide open in the corner as Avery's man double teams Smart.  Instead of passing to Bradley for an open corner three, Smart double-pumps and throws up a shot with no chance of going in.  The clock doesn't expire until the ball almost hits the ground.

For all the "Smart" plays Marcus makes, that was horrible.  Maybe he didn't realize how much time was on the clock but if you're an NBA player who is in that situation dozens and dozens of times you have to know that four seconds lasts much longer than what he seemingly thought.  He shot it like there was only two on the clock when he inbounded it.

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2017, 12:25:21 PM »

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I really love Marcus, his defense, and toughness is something we need, his ability to make special plays is uncanny but...

Smart needs to be a facilitator, and not anything close to a primary option on offense.
Shooting percentage is a very important stat, that he needs to pay attention to. The shots he misses, are shots other more accomplished scoring options could take advantage of. That's how you win CONSISTENTLY.

No way, will I say trade Marcus...when you have a player with his ability to create intangibles you hold on to him, and develop him further. He's 22 years old.

If you're on the "trade Marcus" band wagon, check out all past World Champions all having one or several of Marcus Smart type of player on the roster. Its simple...You don't win in the NBA without this type of warrior on your team.

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2017, 12:25:34 PM »

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Alright this is getting ridiculous!!! Doesn't Smart know that he can't shoot??!!!?? How the hell does he have 15 attempts in a game. Yes he makes plays that impact winning but he also wastes a lot of possessions by taking errant shots. Smart should have no more than 7 attempts in ANY game.... those shots would be better taken by Crowder, Bradley, JJ or KO... and it's not just this game... every close loss it aches when you look at the box score and see Smart with 10+ shots making less than 30%... he definitely has a place on a championship team, but scoring isn't it.

Yeah, it's getting ridiculous at this point.  Smart may well end up costing the Celtics dearly in the playoffs if this continues (which it will.)
In the offseason I would really love to see Ainge ship Smart & Thomas off to another sucker I mean team, even if it means taking a step back for a season.  In the long run it will be better for the team.  We won't have to worry whether or not our lottery rookies are being bullied & harrassed by Smart, either.
you cant really believe this can you?
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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2017, 12:26:11 PM »

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The last play of the game last night against the Bucks was egregious "hero ball."  His inbounds pass gets tipped and he grabs the loose ball, but there was still three seconds left. 

Avery Bradley is standing wide open in the corner as Avery's man double teams Smart.  Instead of passing to Bradley for an open corner three, Smart double-pumps and throws up a shot with no chance of going in.  The clock doesn't expire until the ball almost hits the ground.

For all the "Smart" plays Marcus makes, that was horrible.  Maybe he didn't realize how much time was on the clock but if you're an NBA player who is in that situation dozens and dozens of times you have to know that four seconds lasts much longer than what he seemingly thought.  He shot it like there was only two on the clock when he inbounded it.
he landed with 2.8 seconds left off a broken play.

shooting that is far from egregious.
Quote from: George W. Bush
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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2017, 12:50:08 PM »

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Smart is the least of our problems on this rather odd-ball team, and incomplete roster.

We have a 5-9 defensive liability of a shooting guard, pretending he's a point guard, while on a team that can't possibly compete without his very effective scoring, all because no other player can consistently create and hit his own shot.   

A center that is forced to become a facilitator, or ball movement becomes stagnant. No real positional size, or length to control or compete on the boards. Undersized, inconsistent young guards scattered all over the roster and organization. A 7' center/point guard the refuses to be counted on night in and night out.

No...Marcus Smart isn't the problem on this team.

     

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2017, 04:43:35 PM »

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Smart had an awesome game last night if you watched both ends of the floor

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2017, 02:04:45 AM »

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Alright this is getting ridiculous!!! Doesn't Smart know that he can't shoot??!!!?? How the hell does he have 15 attempts in a game. Yes he makes plays that impact winning but he also wastes a lot of possessions by taking errant shots. Smart should have no more than 7 attempts in ANY game.... those shots would be better taken by Crowder, Bradley, JJ or KO... and it's not just this game... every close loss it aches when you look at the box score and see Smart with 10+ shots making less than 30%... he definitely has a place on a championship team, but scoring isn't it.

Yeah, it's getting ridiculous at this point.  Smart may well end up costing the Celtics dearly in the playoffs if this continues (which it will.)
In the offseason I would really love to see Ainge ship Smart & Thomas off to another sucker I mean team, even if it means taking a step back for a season.  In the long run it will be better for the team.  We won't have to worry whether or not our lottery rookies are being bullied & harrassed by Smart, either.
you cant really believe this can you?

I absolutely do.
Smart is my least favorite Celtic by a wide margin, and for the life of me, I'll never understand why so many greenteamers are in love with him. He's a chucker and a bully, and nothing more.  You watch, in a couple more seasons he'll become a real cancer to the team, I can see the Boogie Cousins signs already.  Bundle him and IT in a trade immediately and make way for the young stars coming in....
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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2017, 02:11:48 AM »

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Smart had an awesome game last night if you watched both ends of the floor

What was he: 3 for 14 ....and they lost.  Hmmm, couldn't have been too good a game :o

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2017, 02:16:22 AM »

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Smart is the least of our problems on this rather odd-ball team, and incomplete roster.

We have a 5-9 defensive liability of a shooting guard, pretending he's a point guard, while on a team that can't possibly compete without his very effective scoring, all because no other player can consistently create and hit his own shot.   

A center that is forced to become a facilitator, or ball movement becomes stagnant. No real positional size, or length to control or compete on the boards. Undersized, inconsistent young guards scattered all over the roster and organization. A 7' center/point guard the refuses to be counted on night in and night out.

No...Marcus Smart isn't the problem on this team.

   

Marcus Smart: month of March
30% shooting from two
18% shooting from three

I would say he's a HUGE part of the Celtic's problems

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2017, 02:19:50 AM »

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Smart had an awesome game last night if you watched both ends of the floor

What was he: 3 for 14 ....and they lost.  Hmmm, couldn't have been too good a game :o
did you watch the game?
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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2017, 03:56:50 PM »

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Smart had an awesome game last night if you watched both ends of the floor

What was he: 3 for 14 ....and they lost.  Hmmm, couldn't have been too good a game :o
did you watch the game?


enough with this . Praising a guy that couldn't hit the side of a barn.

If Olynyk played greate defense, made some key plays but shot 3-14 , nobody would be praising him like you are doing with Smart

he did not have an "awesome" game, he had a bad game

Smart's redeeming ability is that we need him to win games, so he is fine, but his shooting still makes this team lose on these types of nights.

Re: The good, the bad, the ugly , featuring Marcus Smart
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »

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Smart had an awesome game last night if you watched both ends of the floor

What was he: 3 for 14 ....and they lost.  Hmmm, couldn't have been too good a game :o
did you watch the game?


enough with this . Praising a guy that couldn't hit the side of a barn.

If Olynyk played greate defense, made some key plays but shot 3-14 , nobody would be praising him like you are doing with Smart

he did not have an "awesome" game, he had a bad game

Smart's redeeming ability is that we need him to win games, so he is fine, but his shooting still makes this team lose on these types of nights.
I didnt praise him. I asked if the guy watched the game because it sounded from his comment like he did not.

If you didnt watch the game you cant comment one how Marcus played because everyone knows the box score far from illustrates his impact on the game.

Stevens himself has said that Smart can go 0-fer and still have positive impact on the game.

Smart shot bad. He shoots badly all the time. If he wisened up on his shot selection and improved his finishing and shooting hed be way more valuable but he can still have a good game while shooting 3-14.

Thats not necessarily what happened, but saying Smart went x for z doesnt prove he didnt have a good game.

You have to watch him play in order to evaluate his games.
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