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Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2017, 11:13:30 AM »

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Teams like Nets will overpay to get someone to join there team. I believe he will see something between 15-18 m per for 3-4 years and it wont be from us.

If Olynyk were 24, I could see the Nets overpaying as they bet on upside.  But he'll be 26, and future growth is limited.  He's a useful rotation player, but a team like the Nets hunts the bargain bin for unrealized rotation talent, and pays big for guys who have a chance to develop into something more.  Olynyk is much more likely to be grabbed by someone like Utah if they find themselves with extra cash because Hill leaves or Favors is traded.
Olynyk in Utah would be a good fit. I agree on the Nets bit though, I have a hard time seeing them going all out for a guy who has seemingly plateaued.
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Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2017, 11:20:34 AM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2017, 11:34:03 AM »

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He's going to get paid in that range.  The key question is will whoever gives him that money regret making the deal?  Stevens is the only NBA coach he's ever played for and KO has ALWAYS been inconsistent under Brad to the point of being maddening.  Will he be even less consistent for a coach who maybe is not as good at getting the best out of his players?

That said, when he's on, he takes the Celtics to another level.  It's just that when he's off, he's virtually useless.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2017, 11:35:48 AM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.

And Zeller makes $7M, but that doesn't mean that Zeller - or Amir Johnson - are worth that kind of money.
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Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2017, 11:58:46 AM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.

Let's see what Amir gets next summer.  I don't seem him getting more than $9 million on average (the MLE).

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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2017, 12:09:48 PM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.
Amir is getting paid that well because he signed a 2 year contract with the 2nd year being a team option.  He wouldn't have gotten nearly that much on a 3 or 4 year deal. 


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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2017, 12:11:15 PM »

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I'm kind of hoping Olynyk won't be on the team next season. Just don't care for the guy.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2017, 01:30:43 PM »

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Teams like Nets will overpay to get someone to join there team. I believe he will see something between 15-18 m per for 3-4 years and it wont be from us.

If Olynyk were 24, I could see the Nets overpaying as they bet on upside.  But he'll be 26, and future growth is limited.  He's a useful rotation player, but a team like the Nets hunts the bargain bin for unrealized rotation talent, and pays big for guys who have a chance to develop into something more.  Olynyk is much more likely to be grabbed by someone like Utah if they find themselves with extra cash because Hill leaves or Favors is traded.
The same could have been said about Evan Turner who got offered a 4 year, $70m contract at the age of 28. There is no telling what desperate teams will be willing to do this summer. Personally, I think teams like Brooklyn or Sacramento are going to throw big money after Olynyk regardless of his (potential) future growth.

It could be, but Evan Turner didn't get offered such a contract by Brooklyn.  I'm not saying it's impossible for Olynyk to get offered a big deal (although I do feel it's pretty unlikely when looking at the cap positions of teams), but I am objecting to Brooklyn being the big spender.

TP for optimism that KO does not end up on Nets and they don't overpay for a 26 year old borderline starter who would finally get starter minutes. He might be a typical players like Lopez on that team that would score close to 20 in 35 min/night of playing and have a juicy negative rating while on the court. Hmmm....maybe we should root for him to sign with them after all.

My biggest fear is that he finally puts together a real season when someone gives him real minutes although we see how that worked out with Turner. That fear is not big enough for me to want the Celtics to pay over 10m per year for him.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2017, 04:16:30 PM »

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Thinking about Olynyk's next contract I keep going back to Jon Leuer last year. Similar age, similar numbers and he got a little over $10 mil a year for 4 years. I think Kelly is more versatile and the cap will go up some but there also seems to be a lot of reports of teams feeling remorse over some of their big contracts (Turner, Morzgov, Deng, Noah, Crabbe, etc.) so we'll have to see how that plays out.

To me, that sounds like $12-14 mil is about where he'll land.
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Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2017, 04:31:28 PM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.

And Zeller makes $7M, but that doesn't mean that Zeller - or Amir Johnson - are worth that kind of money.

"Worth" is what the market says.  The market for Zeller says he is $8M.  Olynyk will far exceed that.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2017, 04:33:15 PM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.

Let's see what Amir gets next summer.  I don't seem him getting more than $9 million on average (the MLE).

I agree, and if he gets even that much it still supports Olynyk at least getting $13M

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2017, 04:37:29 PM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.
Amir is getting paid that well because he signed a 2 year contract with the 2nd year being a team option.  He wouldn't have gotten nearly that much on a 3 or 4 year deal.

Amir is getting paid that well because that is what was required to get him to sign here. 

In order for some team to get Olynyk away from Boston (who has is RFA rights), they will have to pay up to ensure Boston doesn't match.

This will likely be much higher than $13M in my view.


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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2017, 04:58:09 PM »

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I think his offers from other teams could be held down some given he is a RFA and the Cs could just match. If teams overbid for him, hoping to get the Cs to match, they might be stuck with a player that can't produce at the level he is being paid.

For instance I could see some teams offering 3 year deals in the $11-13 million per year range but think a bad front office could offer him a 4 year $17-19 million per year rate in which case Boston would just let him go.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2017, 06:02:47 PM »

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I think his offers from other teams could be held down some given he is a RFA and the Cs could just match. If teams overbid for him, hoping to get the Cs to match, they might be stuck with a player that can't produce at the level he is being paid.

For instance I could see some teams offering 3 year deals in the $11-13 million per year range but think a bad front office could offer him a 4 year $17-19 million per year rate in which case Boston would just let him go.
Agree, but it's that $14-16 mm per year range that will be a tricky decision.

Re: Kelly Olynyk's market value is $13m
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2017, 06:39:26 PM »

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In any world where Amir Johnson makes $11M, Kelly Olynyk is making $13M.
I'm not sure I understand? Amir was better than Olynyk when he signed that deal and it was only for two years. Olynyk will probably never be a starter in this league.