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How long before Celtics contend for Championship?

This year (they stun and take advantage of CLE/TOR injuries)
11 (23.4%)
Next year (they trade Brooklyn Pick + Bradley + Zeller for Jimmy Butler & sign Blake Griffin)
12 (25.5%)
3 Years (they draft Fultz/Ball and develop young team)
19 (40.4%)
4+ years (God I hope not)
5 (10.6%)

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How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« on: March 20, 2017, 11:48:07 AM »

Offline Fireworks_Boom!

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I hope for option 2 (Next Year). I don't have the stomach for drafting a young team and watching it develop. It's time to cash in the assets.

We'd have to lose a couple players (Olynyk, Johnson, Green) but it is possible we could trade for a max (Butler in a package for Bradley + Zeller + Brooklyn 2017) and sign a max (Griffin).

New Team:
PG: Thomas
SG: Smart
SF: Butler
PF: Griffin
C: Horford

Bench: Crowder, Rozier, Brown, Yabusele, Zizic, Nader, Jackson, Vet Min (3 point specialist), Vet Min (Big), 2017 2nd Round Draft Pick

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 11:58:47 AM »

Offline Clench123

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4+ years

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Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 12:06:01 PM »

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Impossible to say. The team they have is good enough to go on a run if the top teams have untimely injuries.

But you never know how long it'll be before your team will be in a position to beat the best opponents in the league in a seven games series until youve already got that caliber of team in place. Could be next year, could be a decade from now.
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Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 12:12:06 PM »

Offline Phantom255x

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I'd say 2 years honestly, once everything is sort of cleared up (like who stays out of IT/Smart/Bradley/KO, who we draft, etc. etc.)

The scenario for the "next year option" is ideal but I think it's more likely if we got anyone, it would be Hayward not Griffin (who likely stays put), and that trade for Butler looks like an overpay now...

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 12:22:53 PM »

Offline Fireworks_Boom!

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Agreed. We could sign Hayward without subtracting parts. I could also see Amir Johnson returning on a smaller contract.

I'd say 2 years honestly, once everything is sort of cleared up (like who stays out of IT/Smart/Bradley/KO, who we draft, etc. etc.)

The scenario for the "next year option" is ideal but I think it's more likely if we got anyone, it would be Hayward not Griffin (who likely stays put), and that trade for Butler looks like an overpay now...

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 12:30:46 PM »

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One splash is all it takes. Hopefully the right opportunity presents itself and DA is ready to pounce. I think this team can contend as soon as next season.
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Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 06:17:36 PM »

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It may be never.  We have some decent pieces in place, plus a few more assets, but contending will depend on our ability to acquire a star.  There isn't really one capable to taking us to that level on the roster right now.

So how do we get one?  Maybe we get lucky and draft one.  Maybe we don't.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 06:58:09 PM »

Offline Rosco917

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You can develop a young team, and sign a free agent or two.

One of our problems is we have some guys that think of themselves as starter material only, and will not adjust to anything but being a starter. If they don't start they'll take their marbles and go home.

imagine signing Hayward, keeping Crowder, drafting Fultz or Ball and keeping IT. 

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 08:12:58 PM »

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It seems the bar is set pretty high. There need to be almost 4 starters who dominate their positions, and at least 2 that could lead their own elite team, and 2 others that could be their sidekick, and then the bench seems to require either an elite role player glue guy, past prime allstar, 6poy, etc, or several.

We have a lot to prove to consider this roster likely to even hang in the second round.
 
A lot needs to go right, but I could see a lot of our players on a contender, AB, Crowder, Horford, Smart. JJ. but the key requisite pieces aren't there: more elite scoring and rebounding.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 08:43:47 PM »

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The trade proposed for Jimmy Butler can't be done since Zeller won't be on the team anymore once the season ends.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 08:44:32 PM »

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The trade proposed for Jimmy Butler can't be done since Zeller won't be on the team anymore once the season ends.

Doesn't he have an option though? He signed a 2 year deal, second year not guaranteed I believe.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 08:48:47 PM »

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The trade proposed for Jimmy Butler can't be done since Zeller won't be on the team anymore once the season ends.

Doesn't he have an option though? He signed a 2 year deal, second year not guaranteed I believe.
In order to sign Griffin, Zeller's contract option would be declined therefore making him not on the team. If Zeller's option is picked up and then he is traded for Butler, there is not enough room to sign a max free agent.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 01:38:29 AM »

Offline Greyman

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I think sooner than later (though not this year). I didn't vote because I didn't see the point of putting the scenarios with the number of years. I could choose a number of years but not agree with the pathway given.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 01:49:28 AM »

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As early as next year.

Re: How long before Celtics contend for Championship?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 03:19:21 AM »

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They could win it all this year.