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Screw Ray Allen. He was a turncoat during a time that the Celtics were trying to win a title.

This is like McHale signing with the Pistons. Dr. J signing with the Celtics or DJ going to the Sixers during their rivalries. If you wanted to sign somewhere else, go to another team not the HEAT.

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Yea I am pretty baffled by the take that all 3 guys (Pierce, KG and Rondo) are all being jerks or immature with this stuff and that maybe there isn't a good reason for them to not like Allen. A good rule in thumb in life is that if you are not in the room for something, you probably shouldn't pass judgement.

Those guys all basically lived with Allen for several years traveling on the road, planes and buses etc. If based on all those experiences and the times they shared together, if ALL of these guys feel like the way Allen handled his leaving was unforgivable, I have to believe Allen went about it in a really bad way (cause players switch teams all the time and nobody gets upset about it for 10 years).
Yeah, all that might be true, and I have no reason to doubt it.  However, what's the point in celebrating without 1 of the 4 key players?  I'm no R. Allen fan (anymore) but he helped win that championship, that can't be denied.

Nobody is denying that he was a key part of winning it. They just don't like him and prefere not to be around him. He got his ring, he celebrated with everyone when they won in 2008, he got paid, they don't owe him anything else. I'm sure if they felt they considered him a decent friend then they would invite him to their getaway reunion, but they apparently don't. That's life. That is the relationship he built with them. We can't really know why, we weren't there.


This i how I basically feel.  Of course he was a big part of it, doesn't mean they need to hang out with him now.  It isn't logical to single our Rondo if KG and PP had the same thoughts.  Let them celebrate with whomever they want to.  What are we here the party police?  give it a break.
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Sadly without Ray in Game 4 of the 2008 Finals, the Celtics would have been trailing the series 3-2 to the Lakers in that 2-3-2 format (I didn't really like that format, the lower-seeded team had home-court advantage with 3 straight home games. They could easily win Game 6 or Game 7 with a fiery streak of winning 3 straight at home).

The Celtics were definitely the better team that year, however. Still won't forget, 131-92. I was just a young high schooler back then hah. But the way Ray Allen left, yeah, I'm still sour and will never forgive the dude.

Like how we stormed back and won the title in 2010?
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Yea I am pretty baffled by the take that all 3 guys (Pierce, KG and Rondo) are all being jerks or immature with this stuff and that maybe there isn't a good reason for them to not like Allen. A good rule in thumb in life is that if you are not in the room for something, you probably shouldn't pass judgement.

Those guys all basically lived with Allen for several years traveling on the road, planes and buses etc. If based on all those experiences and the times they shared together, if ALL of these guys feel like the way Allen handled his leaving was unforgivable, I have to believe Allen went about it in a really bad way (cause players switch teams all the time and nobody gets upset about it for 10 years).
Yeah, all that might be true, and I have no reason to doubt it.  However, what's the point in celebrating without 1 of the 4 key players?  I'm no R. Allen fan (anymore) but he helped win that championship, that can't be denied.

Nobody is denying that he was a key part of winning it. They just don't like him and prefere not to be around him. He got his ring, he celebrated with everyone when they won in 2008, he got paid, they don't owe him anything else. I'm sure if they felt they considered him a decent friend then they would invite him to their getaway reunion, but they apparently don't. That's life. That is the relationship he built with them. We can't really know why, we weren't there.


This i how I basically feel.  Of course he was a big part of it, doesn't mean they need to hang out with him now.  It isn't logical to single our Rondo if KG and PP had the same thoughts.  Let them celebrate with whomever they want to.  What are we the here the party police?  give it a break.
Look, nobody asked for our opinions.  This is blog and we talk about whatever we want as fans. 

If it were me, it wouldn't feel complete to celebrate without a KEY member present.  The high road is to send him an invite and let the chips fall where they may.  Again, nobody is asking our opinions but the topic is legit to discuss here.

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Sadly without Ray in Game 4 of the 2008 Finals, the Celtics would have been trailing the series 3-2 to the Lakers in that 2-3-2 format (I didn't really like that format, the lower-seeded team had home-court advantage with 3 straight home games. They could easily win Game 6 or Game 7 with a fiery streak of winning 3 straight at home).

The Celtics were definitely the better team that year, however. Still won't forget, 131-92. I was just a young high schooler back then hah. But the way Ray Allen left, yeah, I'm still sour and will never forgive the dude.

Like how we stormed back and won the title in 2010?

We had that series. We should've won Game 3 but Ray was just ice-cold. We should've won Game 6 if Perk wasn't injured. Game 7 don't even get me started with the 4th quarter free-throw disparity.

The Celtics got robbed in 2010.

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Who likes hanging out with people they don't like? There is a ton of people I use to work with that I'd pass on hanging out with even if they were good at their job.

I'm willing to bet there are guys on the roster right now that just work together and nothing else.

Also don't care that Rondo made it public. We would have found out the second one of them SnapBooked or Instatweeted a pic about the 2008 reunion and no one sees Ray.

No hate for Ray from me. He did his job at a high level while here with no excuses.


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I don't blame Ray for leaving---after all, Danny tried to trade him for OJ Mayo, among other deals...but to go to the Heat, was a Stab in the Back to Doc and all of his former teammates.
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Sadly without Ray in Game 4 of the 2008 Finals, the Celtics would have been trailing the series 3-2 to the Lakers in that 2-3-2 format (I didn't really like that format, the lower-seeded team had home-court advantage with 3 straight home games. They could easily win Game 6 or Game 7 with a fiery streak of winning 3 straight at home).

The Celtics were definitely the better team that year, however. Still won't forget, 131-92. I was just a young high schooler back then hah. But the way Ray Allen left, yeah, I'm still sour and will never forgive the dude.

Like how we stormed back and won the title in 2010?
2010 never happened

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Screw Ray Allen. He was a turncoat during a time that the Celtics were trying to win a title.

This is like McHale signing with the Pistons. Dr. J signing with the Celtics or DJ going to the Sixers during their rivalries. If you wanted to sign somewhere else, go to another team not the HEAT.

Green runs deep...never forget it. Nothing personal, just business.

TP, agree with it all except the "nothing personal" part. This was VERY personal.

This quote is from a poster on RealGM. This in conjunction with your quote says it all for me:

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Thanks for helping us win in 08, Ray but he's still a traitor. It's a business. It always has been. The fact that the Celtics explored and tried trading Ray was never personal. It was always about the Celtics first.
Ray left for less vs our rival that just beat us because HE took it personally. That's fine. What's done is done. But I certainly wouldn't want the guy around. He bailed on his teammates. Good luck to ya but sorry. No number raised, no reunions if I was his teammate. You left to beat us to teach us a lesson out of spite.
That's all on Ray.

Judas did what he did NOT for $$ and NOT for another title (that was just a bonus). Benedict did what he did out of spite and vindictiveness to hurt Ainge, Doc, Rondo and the organization. The fact that his "buddies", PP and KG were hurt in the crossfire and were "collateral damage" was of NO significance to that traitorous dog.

Sleep with the enemy, die with the enemy, have your number retired by the enemy. #20 will NEVER be in the rafters associated with Judas.  Fultz, Josh jackson, Tatum, Ball, Ayton, Doncic maybe, not you, traitor.

Offline GreenFaith1819

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Pettiness.

Paul, KG AND Ray went to battle in those contending years. I can understand the bitterness of him leaving but what I wish they would see things from RAY's POV.

From KG, Paul's and Rondo's POV - he's a turncoat. I get that.

From Ray's POV - he goes somewhere where he is wanted and appreciated - even if it turned out to be our "little" rivals. I use the word "little" not disrespectfully here, but our REAL rivals are out in LA and they wear Purple and Gold.

Some things - whether it's just Rondo OR Paul and KG - you need to let go of. They should remember the GOOD times - not the BAD.

If KG, Paul or Rondo really want to see rotten stuff happen to BOS they should revisit the late 80s - experiencing the BIAS tragedy...seeing Larry, Chief and McHale fight valiantly on against a resurgent Lakers team....doing this WITHOUT Bias' help.

They should go back to the early 90s and experience Reggie. Yet another gut punch for this franchise.

I'm sorry - Ray Allen "turn coating" is NOT big, to me at least. I understand completely why he left. I cheered Rondo, Paul and KG for staying and fighting on. While I did not cheer for Ray after he left I simply remember the Good Times in Green.

He was a key part of something special.

Some things - over time - need to be let go of. NO ONE should be THAT competitive. It's fake in the long run.

If I missed a key part of that long article forgive me. It's been a long day and I mainly focused on the title and briefly skimmed the article.
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Pettiness.

Paul, KG AND Ray went to battle in those contending years. I can understand the bitterness of him leaving but what I wish they would see things from RAY's POV.

From KG, Paul's and Rondo's POV - he's a turncoat. I get that.

From Ray's POV - he goes somewhere where he is wanted and appreciated - even if it turned out to be our "little" rivals. I use the word "little" not disrespectfully here, but our REAL rivals are out in LA and they wear Purple and Gold.

Some things - whether it's just Rondo OR Paul and KG - you need to let go of. They should remember the GOOD times - not the BAD.

If KG, Paul or Rondo really want to see rotten stuff happen to BOS they should revisit the late 80s - experiencing the BIAS tragedy...seeing Larry, Chief and McHale fight valiantly on against a resurgent Lakers team....doing this WITHOUT Bias' help.

They should go back to the early 90s and experience Reggie. Yet another gut punch for this franchise.

I'm sorry - Ray Allen "turn coating" is NOT big, to me at least. I understand completely why he left. I cheered Rondo, Paul and KG for staying and fighting on. While I did not cheer for Ray after he left I simply remember the Good Times in Green.

He was a key part of something special.

Some things - over time - need to be let go of. NO ONE should be THAT competitive. It's fake in the long run.

If I missed a key part of that long article forgive me. It's been a long day and I mainly focused on the title and briefly skimmed the article.

TP If celebrating the 10th year is hating then yeah don't call Ray.

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I don't blame Ray for leaving---after all, Danny tried to trade him for OJ Mayo, among other deals...but to go to the Heat, was a Stab in the Back to Doc and all of his former teammates.

So it's OK for the Celtics to trade him to whoever gives them the best deal, but he can't try to go to the best situation for him?

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I don't blame Ray for leaving---after all, Danny tried to trade him for OJ Mayo, among other deals...but to go to the Heat, was a Stab in the Back to Doc and all of his former teammates.

So it's OK for the Celtics to trade him to whoever gives them the best deal, but he can't try to go to the best situation for him?
Sure he can, but that's not what he did.  He took less money to play in Miami.  He also was farther from his family, and I think he has a sick kid who needs a specialist.

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He's financially secure and from everything I've heard about Ray, he would make sure his kid could get appropriate healthcare.  No one is mad because he took a paycut or moved farther from his child's doctor. I'm not going to fault him for taking less money.  He wanted a shot to win and he went to the place he felt had the best chance.  He was a model pro for the Celtics and owed them nothing.  For the team to shun him because of this choice is childish.

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 No Ray, no ring!!