Was it a mistake to pass on Nurkic?

[Darío SpanishFan]

I watch this desperation (well, only some posters, not all) thread and feel very depressed 

Then I open the standings and watch where we are and I ask myself: What would this people do if we were out of the playoffs? What if we didn't have a top-4 pick in the upcoming draft?

You read this thread, or the ones yelling about not picking Giannis A. instead of Kelly, and it makes you wonder if those people always complaining perform perfectly in their daily lives. Because or front office is far away from being ideal, but there are +20 worse than them; maybe it's not so easy.

[IDreamCeltics]

I watch this desperation (well, only some posters, not all) thread and feel very depressed 

Then I open the standings and watch where we are and I ask myself: What would this people do if we were out of the playoffs? What if we didn't have a top-4 pick in the upcoming draft?

You read this thread, or the ones yelling about not picking Giannis A. instead of Kelly, and it makes you wonder if those people always complaining perform perfectly in their daily lives. Because or front office is far away from being ideal, but there are +20 worse than them; maybe it's not so easy.

Welcome to the thread Austin Ainge!

[IDreamCeltics]

Meanwhile Nurkic threw down 21 points 12 rebounds and three blocks in a win against the Heat.

[nickagneta]

Meanwhile Nurkic threw down 21 points 12 rebounds and three blocks in a win against the Heat.

And? Does it matter? Denver traded Nukic and a first for Plumlee. Denver wanted a talented center like Plumlee, and PAID for him. We had nothing comparable to trade to Denver. Ainge couldn't get him.

[IDreamCeltics]

Meanwhile Nurkic threw down 21 points 12 rebounds and three blocks in a win against the Heat.

[tarheelsxxiii]

I watch this desperation (well, only some posters, not all) thread and feel very depressed 

Then I open the standings and watch where we are and I ask myself: What would this people do if we were out of the playoffs? What if we didn't have a top-4 pick in the upcoming draft?

You read this thread, or the ones yelling about not picking Giannis A. instead of Kelly, and it makes you wonder if those people always complaining perform perfectly in their daily lives. Because or front office is far away from being ideal, but there are +20 worse than them; maybe it's not so easy.

I don't think the tone of my OP suggests I was screaming "the sky is falling," I just posed the question with an interest in others' thoughts and provided my own opinion with reasoning.  If that is depressing, I wonder if you're depressed in your daily life! 

I do genuinely think it was a mistake if no offer was made. Others have made a compelling argument that Denver simply wanted Plumlee and ante'd up for him.  Makes the most sense.  I do think he would've been a great addition, though.

[MattyIce]

wrong thread

[jambr380]

I watch this desperation (well, only some posters, not all) thread and feel very depressed 

Then I open the standings and watch where we are and I ask myself: What would this people do if we were out of the playoffs? What if we didn't have a top-4 pick in the upcoming draft?

You read this thread, or the ones yelling about not picking Giannis A. instead of Kelly, and it makes you wonder if those people always complaining perform perfectly in their daily lives. Because or front office is far away from being ideal, but there are +20 worse than them; maybe it's not so easy.

I don't think the tone of my OP suggests I was screaming "the sky is falling," I just posed the question with an interest in others' thoughts and provided my own opinion with reasoning.  If that is depressing, I wonder if you're depressed in your daily life! 

I do genuinely think it was a mistake if no offer was made. Others have made a compelling argument that Denver simply wanted Plumlee and ante'd up for him.  Makes the most sense.  I do think he would've been a great addition, though.

Three-way trades do exist, though. If Portland really was all-in on Nurkic, I don't think they would have 'demanded' a first. We might have been able to get in on the deal and Portland probably could have been enticed by some of our young players/picks.

I don't consider it a huge failure or anything, just stating that it wasn't necessarily impossible for Ainge to acquire Nurkic if he really wanted him.

[The One]

I'm not sure that he fits our style...but I LOVE that he has an edge!

He just destroyed his former team with 33 and 16!

And threw some MAJOR shade!

https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/846971951352594432/video/1

[TheSundanceKid]

Has anyone who supported going for Nurkic managed to come up with a suitable trade that would not have reduced our flexibility this summer? We would have had to move someone who was going to be on the roster next year making more than $2m. KO or Marcus is the starting point. Something tells me Denver wouldn't be interested in KO and if any of you are trading Smart for Nurkic all I can do is laugh and hope you're not still here when I stop.

He may be talented, he may even have succeeded here although I doubt he would have got the playing time. However Ainge clearly wants to have a shot at max FA this summer so there's the reasoning. Was that a mistake? No of course not, Having the chance to leap forward by adding someone like Griffin is not worth sacrificing for a guy like Nurkic

[nickagneta]

Has anyone who supported going for Nurkic managed to come up with a suitable trade that would not have reduced our flexibility this summer? We would have had to move someone who was going to be on the roster next year making more than $2m. KO or Marcus is the starting point. Something tells me Denver wouldn't be interested in KO and if any of you are trading Smart for Nurkic all I can do is laugh and hope you're not still here when I stop.

He may be talented, he may even have succeeded here although I doubt he would have got the playing time. However Ainge clearly wants to have a shot at max FA this summer so there's the reasoning. Was that a mistake? No of course not, Having the chance to leap forward by adding someone like Griffin is not worth sacrificing for a guy like Nurkic

Denver targeted Plumlee and gave up a first plus Nurkic to get him. Denver wasn't looking to trade away Nurkic for guards and picks. They were willing to deal Nurkic and a pick for what they felt was a big man upgrade. Boston just didn't have what Denver was lokking for. Why don't people get this?

[KGs Knee]

Has anyone who supported going for Nurkic managed to come up with a suitable trade that would not have reduced our flexibility this summer? We would have had to move someone who was going to be on the roster next year making more than $2m. KO or Marcus is the starting point. Something tells me Denver wouldn't be interested in KO and if any of you are trading Smart for Nurkic all I can do is laugh and hope you're not still here when I stop.

He may be talented, he may even have succeeded here although I doubt he would have got the playing time. However Ainge clearly wants to have a shot at max FA this summer so there's the reasoning. Was that a mistake? No of course not, Having the chance to leap forward by adding someone like Griffin is not worth sacrificing for a guy like Nurkic

Denver targeted Plumlee and gave up a first plus Nurkic to get him. Denver wasn't looking to trade away Nurkic for guards and picks. They were willing to deal Nurkic and a pick for what they felt was a big man upgrade. Boston just didn't have what Denver was lokking for. Why don't people get this?

I think Olynyk is at least as valuable as Plumlee, although maybe Denver wouldn't have seen it that way.

Denver obviously rated Plumlee highly, probably too highly.  Denver also seemed to undervalue Nurkic, although the Jokic/Nurkic fit just wasn't going to ever work, so they kind of had to move one.

But I doubt Ainge ever offered that.  Maybe because he wasn't interested in Nurkic, maybe he didn't think that was an option, or maybe he wanted to preserve the cap space.  My guess is on the latter.

[Eja117]

I'm with Roy. There's a difference between "pass on" and "didn't fall to"

[ederson]

I can't remember any reports linking Cs to Nurkic

Imho there wasn't any interest so i'd say we passed on him.... Looking at it today he 'd be a great fit. But i doubt anyone expected that kind of production

[guava_wrench]

Meanwhile Nurkic threw down 21 points 12 rebounds and three blocks in a win against the Heat.

And? Does it matter? Denver traded Nukic and a first for Plumlee. Denver wanted a talented center like Plumlee, and PAID for him. We had nothing comparable to trade to Denver. Ainge couldn't get him.

Such an absurd thread. Based on what Denver gave up, we can safely assume they initiated that trade. They were the ones pursuing their guy, Plumlee.