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Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2017, 03:38:36 PM »

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« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2017, 03:41:35 PM »

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Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2017, 04:47:19 PM »

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So apparently Bennett's contract is three years, $21 million, $6.3 million signing bonus, $7.2 million guaranteed. Seems very affordable, I wonder why we wouldn't match. The whole situation is very bizarre, given that he refused an extension that would have paid him $7 million per during the season...
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« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2017, 04:58:27 PM »

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So apparently Bennett's contract is three years, $21 million, $6.3 million signing bonus, $7.2 million guaranteed. Seems very affordable, I wonder why we wouldn't match. The whole situation is very bizarre, given that he refused an extension that would have paid him $7 million per during the season...

The only thing I can think of is that he just crossed 30, and the theme of this offseason seems to be "getting younger."

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Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2017, 05:31:04 PM »

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Does anyone know if Jimmy G is going to be traded?

It is such a precarious situation for the Pats, you have the GOAT as your QB but who knows how long he has left in him...then you have someone who could be a great replacement but you can't give him any guarantees when the starting spot will be his.

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« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2017, 05:55:40 PM »

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Does anyone know if Jimmy G is going to be traded?

It is such a precarious situation for the Pats, you have the GOAT as your QB but who knows how long he has left in him...then you have someone who could be a great replacement but you can't give him any guarantees when the starting spot will be his.

Is this the last year of his contract?

I think they almost have to trade him, because Brady isn't likely to retire in the next year and it's simply not viable to pay a backup $18 million per year. If Cleveland is really offering the #12 plus other assets, they need to do it.


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Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2017, 06:13:40 PM »

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Does anyone know if Jimmy G is going to be traded?

It is such a precarious situation for the Pats, you have the GOAT as your QB but who knows how long he has left in him...then you have someone who could be a great replacement but you can't give him any guarantees when the starting spot will be his.

Is this the last year of his contract?

I think they almost have to trade him, because Brady isn't likely to retire in the next year and it's simply not viable to pay a backup $18 million per year. If Cleveland is really offering the #12 plus other assets, they need to do it.

I think it's a dilemma, mitigated by the strength of the offer made for JG and also perhaps mitigated (or not) by their opinion of Jacoby Brissett or their belief in who they can pick up as a back-up QB or in the draft. 

I think it's important to consider the implications of the all-in approach they seem to be taking this off-season.   It may be an indicator of preparing for an appropriate "last hurrah" for Brady, but it also seems antithetical to build a team capable of winning it all and then going weak on the very important position of back-up QB.   I don't think BB will want to strengthen receivers, defensive backs, D-line, etc, and then leave the entire team vulnerable to a Brady injury when they have a viable back-up who can easily be retained for another year and then franchised next season to assure not losing him for nothing.

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« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2017, 06:19:03 PM »

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Does anyone know if Jimmy G is going to be traded?

It is such a precarious situation for the Pats, you have the GOAT as your QB but who knows how long he has left in him...then you have someone who could be a great replacement but you can't give him any guarantees when the starting spot will be his.

Is this the last year of his contract?

I think they almost have to trade him, because Brady isn't likely to retire in the next year and it's simply not viable to pay a backup $18 million per year. If Cleveland is really offering the #12 plus other assets, they need to do it.

I think it's a dilemma, mitigated by the strength of the offer made for JG and also perhaps mitigated (or not) by their opinion of Jacoby Brissett or their belief in who they can pick up as a back-up QB or in the draft. 

I think it's important to consider the implications of the all-in approach they seem to be taking this off-season.   It may be an indicator of preparing for an appropriate "last hurrah" for Brady, but it also seems antithetical to build a team capable of winning it all and then going weak on the very important position of back-up QB.   I don't think BB will want to strengthen receivers, defensive backs, D-line, etc, and then leave the entire team vulnerable to a Brady injury when they have a viable back-up who can easily be retained for another year and then franchised next season to assure not losing him for nothing.

That's my thought as well. They have totally gone all-in for next season, I don't see them leaving themselves without a solid backup QB, so unless they are sure of having one after moving Garopolo, then I don't see them moving him.

Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2017, 06:23:00 PM »

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Adam Schecter of ESPN has good connections with Pats front office and says he absolutely will not be traded.


Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2017, 06:53:01 PM »

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Any NFL capologists out there? Are the Pats sacrificing long term at all? Seems like BB wants to make another run at 19-0

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« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2017, 07:07:20 PM »

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Any NFL capologists out there? Are the Pats sacrificing long term at all? Seems like BB wants to make another run at 19-0
Just a guess, but Belechick probablt thinks he is making a run at 19-0 every year.

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« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2017, 07:12:29 PM »

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Any NFL capologists out there? Are the Pats sacrificing long term at all? Seems like BB wants to make another run at 19-0


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« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2017, 07:52:28 PM »

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The Patriots are set up VERY well for the future.

Even when TB12 retires, they are getting a lot younger.

Also with future extensions and potential restructures, the Pats can easily continue having a lot of cap space.

As of now they have around 35M if I'm not mistaken.

Plus they usually structure contracts so cap hits the first few years aren't that big, so when the player reaches the later part of it they either re-structure or are traded/released, because they may also be reaching a higher age and may be starting to go past their prime.
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« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2017, 07:58:57 PM »

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So apparently Bennett's contract is three years, $21 million, $6.3 million signing bonus, $7.2 million guaranteed. Seems very affordable, I wonder why we wouldn't match. The whole situation is very bizarre, given that he refused an extension that would have paid him $7 million per during the season...

The only thing I can think of is that he just crossed 30, and the theme of this offseason seems to be "getting younger.".
Could be. Also the contract seemed backloaded, which means he'd be occupying a hefty guaranteed cap slot when he's 33.
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Re: Patriots Free Agency Thread
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2017, 08:49:25 PM »

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Safe to say the Pats have taken the Bills crown of "winning the offseason" this year?  ;D

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