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Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #150 on: March 06, 2017, 11:39:04 PM »

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I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

He's got Hulk Hogan's hair on his head and Donald Trump's hair on his chin
I'm bitter.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #151 on: March 06, 2017, 11:39:08 PM »

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Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #152 on: March 06, 2017, 11:39:16 PM »

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I love Smart in the post.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #153 on: March 06, 2017, 11:39:56 PM »

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I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

He's got Hulk Hogan's hair on his head and Donald Trump's hair on his chin

Ouch!

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #154 on: March 06, 2017, 11:40:26 PM »

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If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.

No doubt, but Terry I think will be a similar player. Not as good (and never gonna win a 6MOY award like Barbosa did), but I think he can have a similar role and impact
I'm bitter.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #155 on: March 06, 2017, 11:40:35 PM »

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I love Smart in the post.

He makes the easy pass for the good play.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #156 on: March 06, 2017, 11:41:09 PM »

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Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #157 on: March 06, 2017, 11:41:10 PM »

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If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.

No doubt, but Terry I think will be a similar player. Not as good (and never gonna win a 6MOY award like Barbosa did), but I think he can have a similar role and impact

Maybe so. That would be awesome for us.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #158 on: March 06, 2017, 11:41:57 PM »

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Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #159 on: March 06, 2017, 11:42:01 PM »

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Smart abusing Paul in the post

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #160 on: March 06, 2017, 11:42:18 PM »

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Smart looks like a 10 year pro out there.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #161 on: March 06, 2017, 11:42:25 PM »

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Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Does that account for both makes and misses, or does "defended" mean missed threes?

EDIT: And calling Al a "center" is a bit of a misnomer, too, because he plays a lot of his minutes as the PF next to Amir.

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #162 on: March 06, 2017, 11:43:48 PM »

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I love Smart in the post.

I love Smart in a post , with a ghost, eating toast  ;D

Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #163 on: March 06, 2017, 11:43:48 PM »

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Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

He and Jaylen should live there.
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
« Reply #164 on: March 06, 2017, 11:44:02 PM »

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these jerseys suck

i wanna puke everytime i see them

I don't mind them

I really hate the grey sleeved jerseys
the only alternate ones i like are the st. patricks day ones with gold

GOLD SHOULD BE THE ALTERNATE COLOR

it makes sense!  who's making these decisions? freaking marketing team. trying to make a buck

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