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Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2017, 06:40:08 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?
They didn't "lose" Teague -- they got rid of him because Schroder made him redundant. Other than that, they replaced Horford with Howard. Injuries or no injuries, our roster is not any more superior than it was last season. Probably less.

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Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2017, 06:42:01 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2017, 06:44:42 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks
They didn't "lose" Teague -- they got rid of him because Schroder made him redundant. Other than that, they replaced Horford with Howard. Injuries or no injuries, our roster is not any more superior than it was last season. Probably less.

-Koz

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2017, 06:52:47 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks

Blake is younger and would have a shorter deal.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2017, 06:57:27 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks

Blake is younger and would have a shorter deal.

Yeah I understand that, but his knees are about to give out imo. We'll see what Ainge does. If we sign him then it's not an issue because Ainge is smart with that stuff.
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They didn't "lose" Teague -- they got rid of him because Schroder made him redundant. Other than that, they replaced Horford with Howard. Injuries or no injuries, our roster is not any more superior than it was last season. Probably less.

-Koz

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2017, 07:22:32 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks

Blake is younger and would have a shorter deal.

Yeah I understand that, but his knees are about to give out imo. We'll see what Ainge does. If we sign him then it's not an issue because Ainge is smart with that stuff.

That whole Pomeranz situation really bugged me last year.
This is where the rubber hits the road

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2017, 07:37:49 PM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks

Blake is younger and would have a shorter deal.

Yeah I understand that, but his knees are about to give out imo. We'll see what Ainge does. If we sign him then it's not an issue because Ainge is smart with that stuff.

That whole Pomeranz situation really bugged me last year.

Pomeranz of the Red Sox?

Yeah and the fact that we gave up a top prospect (#14 in all of baseball) for him bugs me even more. Complete overpay..


Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2017, 10:43:55 AM »

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Griffin had 23 points and 8 rebounds last night.

Looked dominant against an undersized Cleveland team last night.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2017, 11:38:49 AM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?

I would honestly be perfectly fine with either Hayward or Griffin.

Thing is Griffin fills a bit of a bigger need and overall helps this front court more.

To get a max signing, we lose Amir/KO/Jerebko/Zeller, as well as Mickey. They may not be elite level but that's a great chunk of our depth at 4/5 positions.

Yeah Griffin is a better fit, but if I was GM, I would only sign him if I couldn't get another max guy. I don't think he will stay healthy. His situation reminds me of Amare transitioning to the Knicks

Blake is younger and would have a shorter deal.

He's 2 years older than Hayward which is why Hayward makes more sense for a max deal. He'd only be 30 at the end of a 4 year deal.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2017, 12:02:53 PM »

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Griffin had 23 points and 8 rebounds last night.

Looked dominant against an undersized Cleveland team last night.

Undersized and no chemistry without the big 3. That game was an exhibition and we probably shouldn't read into it any more than that.

I'm definitely pro Griffin though. Think he's a better fit with Isaiah than CP3 to be honest since Isaiah doesn't pound the rock as much as Paul and could benefit off ball from Griffin's playmaking. Jordan's also a bit of a weird fit since even though he cover's up Griffin's defensive shortcomings he also clogs up all the area around the basket on offense. If Horford's matched up with a shot blocker Al's shooting would pull him out of the paint freeing Blake to operate around the rim.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 12:10:21 PM »

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Blake Griffin averaging 24/6/4 his last 10 games.

You have to think if another second round exit (or even first round exit) would make him think hard about leaving LAC.

That team just looks so "middle of the pack" despite all the talent they have.




Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2017, 11:48:25 AM »

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I disagree with Stephen A. Smith on a lot of things LOL.

But I'm starting to think he's dead on right about Blake Griffin.

He's a star, but certainly no superstar, and he seems to disappear in the big moments of playoff games.

He had 26 points and 7 rebounds last night, BUT seemed to disappear completely near the end when the Clips needed him most, and was fairly lousy on defense.

And that's been the case for years now.

Yes, others on the team should step up too (like Jordan), but the way the Clips are, CP3 needs to essentially take over every single game to win it seems (in close contests).

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2017, 09:59:18 AM »

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So do we still want to take the risk with Blake on a 4-year max, given his injury history and what not? Seems really risky.

Of course that's assuming he even tests the waters. (Could easily just stay put)

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2017, 10:20:39 AM »

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Potential franchise-crippling gamble. Would set us back 5 years, at least, ifwhen he gets injured.

Say no to Blake. Love his game and his fit with Stevens' system and him as a player/person, but the difference in talent/fit compared to Hayward/Millsap is not worth the injury risk inevitability.

Re: 2016-2017 Blake Griffin Thread
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »

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At this point wouldn't we rather have Hayward?
At this point I'm not sure I'd sign either of them. We have to give up a lot to get either. We massively constrain ourselves in the future as well.

I'd be leaning towards renegotiating Isaiah's contract and then looking at a trade for Paul George. Then re-sign KO. All should be doable under the cap and we come into next year strong.
- Renegotiate IT
- Draft Fultz
- Extend the life of this core until the young guys are ready