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Which Free Agent Do You Prefer We Sign?

Paul Millsap
0 (0%)
Gordon Hayward
28 (37.3%)
Blake Griffin
46 (61.3%)
Other Free Agent (COMMENT BELOW!)
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2017, 09:43:33 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2017, 09:55:18 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2017, 10:36:15 AM »

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I would go

1. Griffin



2. Millsap
3. Hayward

Griffin seems like the pretty clear no brainer first choice to me.  He plays at a position of need, fills several of the team holes, and is still fairly young.  I honestly don't really see the point of Hayward on this team.  He doesn't really do much for any of the teams holes, whereas Millsap at least fills a real positional need.  Obviously I would have no issue with any and I don't think any are likely at all, but it would be a nice position to be in.
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2017, 10:41:58 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.

Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2017, 11:03:20 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2017, 11:06:19 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.

Well it should be clear now.  Thanks for your two cents.

Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2017, 11:24:05 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.

Well it should be clear now.  Thanks for your two cents.
No problem, Griffin will also have played a lot more than 70 games in the prior 3 seasons as well.  Sure, he wouldn't have played 70 in any particular season, but absolutely will have played in a lot more than 70 games.  Another clearly misleading statement made by you to support the position you are taking.

You shouldn't be surprised when you make clearly misleading statements, that you get called out on them. 
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2017, 11:25:46 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.

Well it should be clear now.  Thanks for your two cents.
No problem, Griffin will also have played a lot more than 70 games in the prior 3 seasons as well.  Sure, he wouldn't have played 70 in any particular season, but absolutely will have played in a lot more than 70 games.  Another clearly misleading statement made by you to support the position you are taking.

You shouldn't be surprised when you make clearly misleading statements, that you get called out on them.

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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2017, 11:28:24 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.

Well it should be clear now.  Thanks for your two cents.

Anyways I like Hayward, but why do we need him? I would be more happier with Griffin, because he's an underrated passer, and he fits our system as many have said.

And people act like his game is all athleticism, while that is partly true, he'll be able to put up decent numbers with the spacing he'll get from IT and Horford.
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2017, 11:30:06 AM »

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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2017, 11:32:35 AM »

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Hayward.  Griffin won't have even played 70 games in the prior three seasons when he signs his next deal.  You can't give someone a max deal going into his 30s who's had that much trouble staying healthy recently.  I think Griffin fits better if healthy, but that IF is too chancy given his history.

Going into his 30's?  What are you smoking?  Blake Griffin is 27, same age as IT.  The championship window would be wide open as long as his health checks out.  Then we either add a top prospect through the draft or trade it in a deal for Butler or George.

He will be in his 30s when the contract would end, which means he is going into his 30s with respect to signing him this summer

This is the correct interpretation of my comment.
I didn't read it that way at all.  Griffin is not going into his 30's this summer.  He will be in his 30's when the contract ends, sure, but the way it was worded definitely implied he would be in his 30's this summer.

Well it should be clear now.  Thanks for your two cents.
No problem, Griffin will also have played a lot more than 70 games in the prior 3 seasons as well.  Sure, he wouldn't have played 70 in any particular season, but absolutely will have played in a lot more than 70 games.  Another clearly misleading statement made by you to support the position you are taking.

You shouldn't be surprised when you make clearly misleading statements, that you get called out on them.

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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #56 on: February 27, 2017, 11:35:57 AM »

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I have no doubt though if we got Griffin, that he would be shooting at least 1-2 3PA per game.  :-X
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2017, 11:37:04 AM »

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We won't.

It appears he's only interested in resigning or in OKC.

It'll be Hayward - if it's anyone, and I am not at all convinced it will be anyone.
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2017, 11:47:11 AM »

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I would go

1. Griffin



2. Millsap
3. Hayward

Griffin seems like the pretty clear no brainer first choice to me.  He plays at a position of need, fills several of the team holes, and is still fairly young.  I honestly don't really see the point of Hayward on this team. He doesn't really do much for any of the teams holes, whereas Millsap at least fills a real positional need.  Obviously I would have no issue with any and I don't think any are likely at all, but it would be a nice position to be in.

He would give us another go-to scorer, which is a major need for the team. Hayward would come in and be the best wing on the team day 1, and take a lot of pressure off IT
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Re: Pretend They're AVAILABLE This July. Hayward, Griffin or Millsap?
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2017, 11:47:50 AM »

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As much as I like Hayward Griffin is my choice.

We would get Griffin during his age 28, 29, 30, and 31 seasons.  Even if he has some drop off in athleticism it shouldn't be that much.  He has enough of a diversified game to deal with some decline in athleticism.

Griffin is capable of truly monster games which matters more in the playoffs than in the regular season.  So what if he doesn't play 70ish games or so during the regular season as long as he is healthy for the playoffs.  We are a pretty deep team, deeper than the Clippers that we can withstand him missing games.

If we sign Hayward it would mean we would have to make another trade for a PF, as we can only have so many SG/SF types on the team with a gaping hole at PF.  It's easy to say trade for a PF but who would that be?  There has to be one that is available and worthwhile for us.