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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2017, 01:39:06 PM »

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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2017, 01:41:09 PM »

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You move down the list as necessary. It doesn't necessarily even matter which max guy we sign as long as we do get one prior to trading for the final piece (Butler/George)

You aren't saying Favors is a max guy are you?

Ideally we'd get him for a bit under the max but I don't think it matters either way.  We have no other use for cap space.


I hope it's a LOT under the max. Are you saying just because you have it you should give it to a below-average guy? I mean Favors numbers this year are

G      P      TRB    A     FG%     FG3%      FT%
41   9.4      6.1   1.1   47.6      25.0       63.9

How do those numbers equate to just a little under the max??  Those are like 80% under the max numbers.

He's had a ****ty season full of injuries.  The team should do its due diligence on his health but if he's not permanently damaged then I'd be fine paying him based on past production.  Still only 25.

His career numbers are not much better than his season numbers. Matter of fact his 3pt % is double what his career numbers are.

His career numbers include his first five seasons, where he was a 20mpg rotation big.  Don't think it's particularly representative.  3P% in particular is completely irrelevant given that he takes less than 10 a season.


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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2017, 01:43:28 PM »

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Did I really just come here to see people arguing the case that Favors is worth a max..  :o

WOW. With that logic, so is Olynyk...  ::)
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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2017, 01:44:43 PM »

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You move down the list as necessary. It doesn't necessarily even matter which max guy we sign as long as we do get one prior to trading for the final piece (Butler/George)

You aren't saying Favors is a max guy are you?

Ideally we'd get him for a bit under the max but I don't think it matters either way.  We have no other use for cap space.


I hope it's a LOT under the max. Are you saying just because you have it you should give it to a below-average guy? I mean Favors numbers this year are

G      P      TRB    A     FG%     FG3%      FT%
41   9.4      6.1   1.1   47.6      25.0       63.9

How do those numbers equate to just a little under the max??  Those are like 80% under the max numbers.

He's had a ****ty season full of injuries.  The team should do its due diligence on his health but if he's not permanently damaged then I'd be fine paying him based on past production.  Still only 25.

His career numbers are not much better than his season numbers. Matter of fact his 3pt % is double what his career numbers are.

His career numbers include his first five seasons, where he was a 20mpg rotation big.  Don't think it's particularly representative.  3P% in particular is completely irrelevant given that he takes less than 10 a season.

You may be right but these are kind of excuses. We have to go on past performance somewhat don't we? How does he based on any numbers in his entire career even get mentioned as a max guy? I just don't see it.

Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2017, 01:45:53 PM »

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Did I really just come here to see people arguing the case that Favors is worth a max..  :o

WOW. With that logic, so is Olynyk...  ::)

You are exactly right. Olynyk would deserve is way more than Favors. But is every free agent out there worth the max?

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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2017, 01:47:11 PM »

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You move down the list as necessary. It doesn't necessarily even matter which max guy we sign as long as we do get one prior to trading for the final piece (Butler/George)

You aren't saying Favors is a max guy are you?

Ideally we'd get him for a bit under the max but I don't think it matters either way.  We have no other use for cap space.


I hope it's a LOT under the max. Are you saying just because you have it you should give it to a below-average guy? I mean Favors numbers this year are

G      P      TRB    A     FG%     FG3%      FT%
41   9.4      6.1   1.1   47.6      25.0       63.9

How do those numbers equate to just a little under the max??  Those are like 80% under the max numbers.

He's had a ****ty season full of injuries.  The team should do its due diligence on his health but if he's not permanently damaged then I'd be fine paying him based on past production.  Still only 25.

His career numbers are not much better than his season numbers. Matter of fact his 3pt % is double what his career numbers are.

His career numbers include his first five seasons, where he was a 20mpg rotation big.  Don't think it's particularly representative.  3P% in particular is completely irrelevant given that he takes less than 10 a season.

You may be right but these are kind of excuses. We have to go on past performance somewhat don't we? How does he based on any numbers in his entire career even get mentioned as a max guy? I just don't see it.

Is it fair to judge Jimmy Butler by his career numbers of 15 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists? That doesn't look like a max guy to me.

No? Excuses!


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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2017, 01:50:41 PM »

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You move down the list as necessary. It doesn't necessarily even matter which max guy we sign as long as we do get one prior to trading for the final piece (Butler/George)

You aren't saying Favors is a max guy are you?

Ideally we'd get him for a bit under the max but I don't think it matters either way.  We have no other use for cap space.


I hope it's a LOT under the max. Are you saying just because you have it you should give it to a below-average guy? I mean Favors numbers this year are

G      P      TRB    A     FG%     FG3%      FT%
41   9.4      6.1   1.1   47.6      25.0       63.9

How do those numbers equate to just a little under the max??  Those are like 80% under the max numbers.

He's had a ****ty season full of injuries.  The team should do its due diligence on his health but if he's not permanently damaged then I'd be fine paying him based on past production.  Still only 25.

His career numbers are not much better than his season numbers. Matter of fact his 3pt % is double what his career numbers are.

His career numbers include his first five seasons, where he was a 20mpg rotation big.  Don't think it's particularly representative.  3P% in particular is completely irrelevant given that he takes less than 10 a season.

You may be right but these are kind of excuses. We have to go on past performance somewhat don't we? How does he based on any numbers in his entire career even get mentioned as a max guy? I just don't see it.

Is it fair to judge Jimmy Butler by his career numbers of 15 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists? That doesn't look like a max guy to me.

No? Excuses!

First off I am not a huge Butler fan either. I think a lot of his numbers are based on volume and the way he gets to the line is 50% reputation. But Favors is no Jimmy Butler. You cannot compare those two.


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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2017, 01:55:07 PM »

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You move down the list as necessary. It doesn't necessarily even matter which max guy we sign as long as we do get one prior to trading for the final piece (Butler/George)

You aren't saying Favors is a max guy are you?

Ideally we'd get him for a bit under the max but I don't think it matters either way.  We have no other use for cap space.


I hope it's a LOT under the max. Are you saying just because you have it you should give it to a below-average guy? I mean Favors numbers this year are

G      P      TRB    A     FG%     FG3%      FT%
41   9.4      6.1   1.1   47.6      25.0       63.9

How do those numbers equate to just a little under the max??  Those are like 80% under the max numbers.

He's had a ****ty season full of injuries.  The team should do its due diligence on his health but if he's not permanently damaged then I'd be fine paying him based on past production.  Still only 25.

His career numbers are not much better than his season numbers. Matter of fact his 3pt % is double what his career numbers are.

His career numbers include his first five seasons, where he was a 20mpg rotation big.  Don't think it's particularly representative.  3P% in particular is completely irrelevant given that he takes less than 10 a season.

You may be right but these are kind of excuses. We have to go on past performance somewhat don't we? How does he based on any numbers in his entire career even get mentioned as a max guy? I just don't see it.

Is it fair to judge Jimmy Butler by his career numbers of 15 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists? That doesn't look like a max guy to me.

No? Excuses!
 

Except he has history of showing he is worth it. Favors doesn't have any at all.
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2017, 02:02:21 PM »

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Blake fills many needs and would be an excellent fit. I also believe Brad can land us Hayward.
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2017, 02:16:24 PM »

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The best part about the Blake/Hayward debate is that, as of today, the Clips and Jazz are slated to play each other in the first round of the playoffs - meaning one of them will be a first round out. With Hayward's comments about wanting to play for a contender, he may look for a change of scenery. And Blake may look at the Clips aging core and see the Cs as a more desirable destination.

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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2017, 04:02:34 PM »

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Blake fills many needs and would be an excellent fit. I also believe Brad can land us Hayward.

ugh, can't believe the Blake love fest, for me he's too injury prone, not a factor on defense and going to be too expensive.

Also he's not a realistic target as I just don't see him leaving LA

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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2017, 04:06:46 PM »

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Blake fills many needs and would be an excellent fit. I also believe Brad can land us Hayward.

ugh, can't believe the Blake love fest, for me he's too injury prone, not a factor on defense and going to be too expensive.

Also he's not a realistic target as I just don't see him leaving LA
He isnt a great defender, but hes quick enough to defend 4s(meaning you can put him next to Horford) he a great passer for a big, adds legit starpower, and can rebound and hit midrange shots.

He fits terrifically and hes only 27.

I dont see him leaving LA but hed be an awesome signing.
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Re: Ainge has his eye on a max FA in 2017: who could it be?
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2017, 04:17:24 PM »

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I think a healthy Blake would be the first choice.


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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2017, 04:49:20 PM »

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I think the best perspective for Favors would be during the last two seasons, when he played starter's minutes. 16/8 in 31mpg, plus defender, good advanced metrics.

Those numbers aren't too out of whack with those of our very own max-contract PF:

http://bkref.com/tiny/itTlz

Not saying they are the same player, or that we should give Favors the max, but it doesn't seem crazy to think that he'd get it.

(Also he is under contract for next year, not a FA. Not sure why he came up. But I thought I'd try to add context.)


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