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2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« on: February 24, 2017, 09:17:36 AM »

Offline spikelovetheCelts

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.
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Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 09:22:28 AM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

No, we already have 2 first rounders from last year to fit in as well as Brooklyn's pick this year. That's too many for a contending team.   Plus the 2018 pick is more valuable since the Nets will be terrible again and it could be the first pick. 

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 09:22:43 AM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

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2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2017, 09:34:28 AM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

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2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Would you do it if Jackson was on the board?

Say the top 3 are Fultz/Ball/Isaac, would you trade the 2018 pick to get Jackson?
I'm bitter.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 09:48:53 AM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

Skip

2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Would you do it if Jackson was on the board?

Say the top 3 are Fultz/Ball/Isaac, would you trade the 2018 pick to get Jackson?

False premise.  Jackson is top 3.  I think Danny will rank him number 1 target. 

More realistic trade idea: We land the top pick.  Lakers land 2 or 3.  I can almost guarantee you that Magic will want Ball, because, as Bill Walton said in the UCLA game last night, the kid is the closest thing to Magic Johnson he has ever seen.  Could see Danny agreeing to a swap with LA in which we also get Randle, who could be a good guy off the bench for us. Then Danny gets Jackson plus another good player.

If the same scenario but another team at 2-3 not the Lakers, that other team could very well target Fultz, and would agree to swap places with Ainge and maybe offer a future 1st round pick unprotected. Or another desirable asset.

If the draft order stays the way it is today, with Jackson slotted at 3, I am not sweating it unless we land at 4, in which case Danny should either try and trade up to grab Jackson, or take someone like Tatum or Isaac.


Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 09:53:36 AM »

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2018 seems to have better big men. I wouldn't do this trade, we also will have Zizic, Yabusele and Nader as probable rookies, apart from Minnesota's second round (let's say number 35-38).

We don't need that.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2017, 10:51:16 AM »

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Nope, if there was a way of doing the reverse, i.e. trading the 2017 pick for a guaranteed top 4 pick next year I'd do that. Unfortunately that isn't possible
- Renegotiate IT
- Draft Fultz
- Extend the life of this core until the young guys are ready

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2017, 11:00:30 AM »

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The main issue with this idea is that we don't give ourselves a chance to sign a significant free agent this summer. Along with already mentioned 2 stashed rooks. If Žižić and top 4 pick play for us next year, that is more than enough kindergarden work for Brad.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 11:02:53 AM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

Skip

2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Would you do it if Jackson was on the board?

Say the top 3 are Fultz/Ball/Isaac, would you trade the 2018 pick to get Jackson?

False premise.  Jackson is top 3.  I think Danny will rank him number 1 target. 

More realistic trade idea: We land the top pick.  Lakers land 2 or 3.  I can almost guarantee you that Magic will want Ball, because, as Bill Walton said in the UCLA game last night, the kid is the closest thing to Magic Johnson he has ever seen.  Could see Danny agreeing to a swap with LA in which we also get Randle, who could be a good guy off the bench for us. Then Danny gets Jackson plus another good player.

If the same scenario but another team at 2-3 not the Lakers, that other team could very well target Fultz, and would agree to swap places with Ainge and maybe offer a future 1st round pick unprotected. Or another desirable asset.

If the draft order stays the way it is today, with Jackson slotted at 3, I am not sweating it unless we land at 4, in which case Danny should either try and trade up to grab Jackson, or take someone like Tatum or Isaac.

That's not a false premise.  It's entirely possible that the team picking #3 will prefer someone else and Jackson will be there at #4 (Top rated prospects sometimes slip, like Dunn last year, or Winslow in 2015, or Embiid in 2014, or Noel in 213).  I'm not suggesting trading the 2018 pick for the #4 pick right after the lottery, I'm asking if, should Jackson be available at #4 (which is entirely possible), people would be willing to trade the 2018 pick for him
I'm bitter.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 11:16:16 AM »

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Why for Philly? Why would any team trade out of 17 top lotto? I know Philly will have multiple picks in the top (possibly) but this year's talent has positional need-fillers, next season is stacked with players in positions they are already trying to show the door. They can get a top rated PG and SG this season.
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Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 11:33:30 AM »

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No way not with Ayton and 4 other bigs ranked in the top 7. C's will need a few of them top battle Simmons/Embid/Saric/Okafor long term. 76ers really need a top 4 pick this year for their "Process'. C's will need a top 4 pick next year bad for their 'Development".
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Trade targets.      Draft.                     FAs
1. Davis              1.Fultz              1. Griffin*
2. Cousins          2. Tatum          2. Hayward
3. Butler              3. Jackson       3. Millsap
4. George            4. Ball               4. Lowry
5. Favors             5. Isaac            5. Gali

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 12:51:02 PM »

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The more I hear about the big men prospects for this draft, the more I think it'd just be better off to just keep building through the draft while we succeed in FA. We need big men bad. If they can develop next to Al, we'll be in business.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 01:00:21 PM »

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This team will not need another rookie to develop next year. They might have as many as 4 but most definitely at least three. Just let the 2018 pick alone. We may need it in a trade for a superstar.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 01:31:02 PM »

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

Skip

2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Would you do it if Jackson was on the board?

Say the top 3 are Fultz/Ball/Isaac, would you trade the 2018 pick to get Jackson?

False premise.  Jackson is top 3.  I think Danny will rank him number 1 target. 

More realistic trade idea: We land the top pick.  Lakers land 2 or 3.  I can almost guarantee you that Magic will want Ball, because, as Bill Walton said in the UCLA game last night, the kid is the closest thing to Magic Johnson he has ever seen.  Could see Danny agreeing to a swap with LA in which we also get Randle, who could be a good guy off the bench for us. Then Danny gets Jackson plus another good player.

If the same scenario but another team at 2-3 not the Lakers, that other team could very well target Fultz, and would agree to swap places with Ainge and maybe offer a future 1st round pick unprotected. Or another desirable asset.

If the draft order stays the way it is today, with Jackson slotted at 3, I am not sweating it unless we land at 4, in which case Danny should either try and trade up to grab Jackson, or take someone like Tatum or Isaac.
I'm in total agreement with your prospect rankings and priorities.  I agree that a trade down could be in order, ala Joe Barry Carrol (#1 pick) for McHale (#3) and Parrish, when McHale was Red's target all along.

Re: 2018 pick for another 2017 pick
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2017, 12:21:10 PM »

Offline spikelovetheCelts

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Hey Guys.
What is your thought on us trading the 2018 pick to say Philly for their 2017 pick once the order is esatblished. Say Philly gets pick 4 and we get pick 2. We then get two rooks that can have an extra year of playing together.

Skip

2018 draft is also considered a good one... Lots of top centers/pfs prospects

I mean unless fultz drops for whatever reason

Would you do it if Jackson was on the board?

Say the top 3 are Fultz/Ball/Isaac, would you trade the 2018 pick to get Jackson?

False premise.  Jackson is top 3.  I think Danny will rank him number 1 target. 

More realistic trade idea: We land the top pick.  Lakers land 2 or 3.  I can almost guarantee you that Magic will want Ball, because, as Bill Walton said in the UCLA game last night, the kid is the closest thing to Magic Johnson he has ever seen.  Could see Danny agreeing to a swap with LA in which we also get Randle, who could be a good guy off the bench for us. Then Danny gets Jackson plus another good player.

If the same scenario but another team at 2-3 not the Lakers, that other team could very well target Fultz, and would agree to swap places with Ainge and maybe offer a future 1st round pick unprotected. Or another desirable asset.

If the draft order stays the way it is today, with Jackson slotted at 3, I am not sweating it unless we land at 4, in which case Danny should either try and trade up to grab Jackson, or take someone like Tatum or Isaac.
I'm in total agreement with your prospect rankings and priorities.  I agree that a trade down could be in order, ala Joe Barry Carrol (#1 pick) for McHale (#3) and Parrish, when McHale was Red's target all along.
We have that option we also could trade up if we fall to 4. Yabu can not come next year. We would just have 2 rooks with 4 open slots.
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