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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #570 on: February 24, 2017, 11:23:01 PM »

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 Stevens pointed out the obvious: Tucker and Ibaka made a big difference letting Toronto go "small" while keeping physicality.

Why can't we get players like that...

Because we're not having one last roll of the dice at contending with a 31 year old Kyle Lowry by trading all our available picks at the deadline.

All our available picks? Thought PJ cost two seconds? Hmmm....

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #571 on: February 24, 2017, 11:26:10 PM »

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Where the **** is Avery Bradley?

Seriously.

You do realize our one all star played tonite and theirs was out?  But yea Bradley woulda made the difference :o

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #572 on: February 24, 2017, 11:34:38 PM »

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This wasn't the best game for Stevens.

When are you going start demanding at least 10 shots from Horford?

Horford agrees....

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Horford is asked if he needs more than 5 shots in a game like this. "I think so...there's no question."

I would also say that this ITs fault too.

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #573 on: February 24, 2017, 11:35:32 PM »

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Jesus Christ, Horford is so bad on PnR defense. Just completely left Derozan open there.

It's okay, though, cuz he makes up for it with his rebounding. Oh wait ...

Seriously. I've been a big fan and proponent of Al being a Celtic, but he's clearly overpaid for his production. At this point, he's no longer a "star" and is ultimately a high-end, glorified role player.

But we ultimately had to pay him that to get him here, so you can't really complain about that.

What ticks me off is his insistence of playing the PF position when he's clearly a C. He can't guard out on the perimeter to save his life, especially in the PnR. As good as his defensive reputation was from Atlanta, I had no idea that he'd be so absolutely terrible at defending the PnR.

But it's not like Danny has really done anything to get him an actual legitimate frontcourt mate either...
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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #574 on: February 24, 2017, 11:35:58 PM »

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Ugh.  Good night, y'all.  This one hurts.  We had the world on our hands and we let it dissolve into nothingness.  Brad not jumping at the chance to coach Cousins should be a big deal...but i guess i'm one of the only few ppl around here who give a [dang]. 

With a saddened heart, go C's.

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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #575 on: February 24, 2017, 11:37:24 PM »

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This wasn't the best game for Stevens.

When are you going start demanding at least 10 shots from Horford?

Horford agrees....

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‏@AdamHimmelsbach  7m7 minutes ago
Horford is asked if he needs more than 5 shots in a game like this. "I think so...there's no question."

I would also say that this ITs fault too.

Certainly Stevens is at fault for many issues tonight, and IT was a big reason we lost, too.

But Horford is one of the leaders of this team, so he needs to demand the ball more instead of letting IT go out there and chuck up crap all fourth quarter long.

Many of us have been saying this type of basketball isn't going to be sustainable or work in the playoffs, and now the chickens are coming home to roost when the game starts getting serious.
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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #576 on: February 24, 2017, 11:39:45 PM »

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Celtics management obviously didnt care about this season success, but atleast we still have 100 draft picks to stash in europe these next few years.
Well, you're at least half right. It's not just about this season.

I understand we dont want to give away the brooklyn picks.
but we could have upgraded easily using some of our other picks, even if it is for a possible rental
a rental of who exactly?  who is the miracle player that could be had for less than Brooklyn picks or gutting the core of the team that would make us significantly better where we actually contend --> because that's the only point in 'renting' a player.

Ibaka. I think we legitimately have a chance of beating Cleveland with Ibaka. We get AB back and add Ibaka, that's a legitimate chance to get to the finals, and it only would've cost something like Rozier, Zeller, and the Memphis or Clippers pick. But Danny is irrationally high on Rozier.

What is holding us back right now is twofold: not having AB for his scoring and being the third guard in our rotation and not having that one extra big to play. This lineup would seriously challenge Cleveland:

PG: IT, Smart
SG: AB, Green
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Ibaka, KO/JJ
C: Horford, Amir
that's purely a guess on your part that C's would have only had to part with that. 

I would have liked to get Ibaka but we'll see how he works out for Toronto the rest of the season.  C's had problems with the whole Toronto team, not just Ibaka and if we had him, he wouldn't have stopped Derozan at all.  wouldn't have stopped IT from trying to play hero ball either

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #577 on: February 24, 2017, 11:41:19 PM »

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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #578 on: February 24, 2017, 11:41:48 PM »

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This wasn't the best game for Stevens.

When are you going start demanding at least 10 shots from Horford?

Horford agrees....

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‏@AdamHimmelsbach  7m7 minutes ago
Horford is asked if he needs more than 5 shots in a game like this. "I think so...there's no question."

I would also say that this ITs fault too.

Certainly Stevens is at fault for many issues tonight, and IT was a big reason we lost, too.

But Horford is one of the leaders of this team, so he needs to demand the ball more instead of letting IT go out there and chuck up crap all fourth quarter long.

Many of us have been saying this type of basketball isn't going to be sustainable or work in the playoffs, and now the chickens are coming home to roost when the game starts getting serious.

It is hard to demand the ball when you have guys like IT feeling himself, Crowder shooting well, and Smart doing Marcus things.

It is the coach's job to call plays for people.  Stevens has to realize this, and there is no doubt in my mind he will look at Al's shot attempts and say "I screwed up."  Even Olynyk only had like 3 shots! Why even play these guys if they don't shoot??

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #579 on: February 24, 2017, 11:42:48 PM »

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 Stevens pointed out the obvious: Tucker and Ibaka made a big difference letting Toronto go "small" while keeping physicality.

Why can't we get players like that...

Because we're not having one last roll of the dice at contending with a 31 year old Kyle Lowry by trading all our available picks at the deadline.

All our available picks? Thought PJ cost two seconds? Hmmm....

And Ibaka cost their first. They added Tucker AND Ibaka.

They are in a different situation to us.


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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #580 on: February 24, 2017, 11:43:14 PM »

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Derozan can't be stopped; Tucker makes a whole bunch of defensive plays.
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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #581 on: February 24, 2017, 11:43:48 PM »

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Where the **** is Avery Bradley?

Seriously.

You do realize our one all star played tonite and theirs was out?  But yea Bradley woulda made the difference :o

Was my question not legitimate?

They said we were healthy and yet Bradley didnt play.


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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #582 on: February 24, 2017, 11:48:21 PM »

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Missed the entire 2nd half, but got worried towards end of the first.  2nd half summary from anyone? TP awaits.

Derozan can't be stopped; Tucker makes a whole bunch of defensive plays.

Thomas had a bad game. 

Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #583 on: February 24, 2017, 11:49:52 PM »

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Missed the entire 2nd half, but got worried towards end of the first.  2nd half summary from anyone? TP awaits.

Derozan can't be stopped; Tucker makes a whole bunch of defensive plays.

Oon't forget that IT let the 4th quarter talk go to his head and had several turnovers and half a dozen bad shots.
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Re: Celtics (37-20) at Raptors (33-24) Game #58 2/24/17
« Reply #584 on: February 24, 2017, 11:51:53 PM »

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Where the **** is Avery Bradley?

Seriously.

You do realize our one all star played tonite and theirs was out?  But yea Bradley woulda made the difference :o

Was my question not legitimate?

They said we were healthy and yet Bradley didnt play.

Bradley is hurt more than we thought - which totally sucks.

And I agree with cltc5 - we have been complaining about all of our injuries this season, yet we can't pull out a win with a double digit lead when they don't have Lowry. Not good.

No shots from KO or Horford is a joke. Apparently we are just going to let all of our guards jack up crappy shots while our best fg% players watch.