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Forget Butler and PG13, I want Drummond and Melo
« on: February 21, 2017, 05:11:22 PM »

Offline celtsrp33

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I think there is a legit chance Danny could pull off a deal to land both Drummond and Melo.  We would then have a lineup that includes IT4, Bradley or Smart (depending on who is dealt), Melo, Horford and Drummond.  That 5 can contend with ANYONE - even GS.  What do you guys think?  Is this even possible or am I just dreaming?  (I know I am dreaming to some extent here but who can tell me if it could actually work in the real world?)
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Re: Forget Butler and PG13, I want Drummond and Melo
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 05:14:00 PM »

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Also, FWIW, I don't think Butler or George are worth the asking price.  I do not want to give up that 17 Nets pick for a guy to come here for a year and a half.  Drummond is signed through 2020 with a player option in 2021 - and he is 23!  He could grow with this team, so I think it makes sense.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 05:16:25 PM »

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I do not want to give up that 17 Nets pick for a guy to come here for a year and a half.

No, you want to use on a draft pick that might not pan out which is even more risky and takes time.

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2017, 05:25:10 PM »

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Forget Melo, I want PG13 and Drummond lol.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2017, 05:26:27 PM »

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I think there is a legit chance Danny could pull off a deal to land both Drummond and Melo.  We would then have a lineup that includes IT4, Bradley or Smart (depending on who is dealt), Melo, Horford and Drummond.  That 5 can contend with ANYONE - even GS.  What do you guys think?  Is this even possible or am I just dreaming?  (I know I am dreaming to some extent here but who can tell me if it could actually work in the real world?)

There is no way Melo is coming here.  We are not taking on his contract.

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2017, 05:39:06 PM »

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All I want is Drummond. He is on a long contract and he is young. Get Dummond and hire McHale to coach him.

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 05:43:11 PM »

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Neither one is a good fit.  Drummond has no range and is not a good perimeter defender.  Melo is an inefficient volume shooter, poor defender and rebounder.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 05:58:58 PM »

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I think there is a legit chance Danny could pull off a deal to land both Drummond and Melo.  We would then have a lineup that includes IT4, Bradley or Smart (depending on who is dealt), Melo, Horford and Drummond.  That 5 can contend with ANYONE - even GS.  What do you guys think?  Is this even possible or am I just dreaming?  (I know I am dreaming to some extent here but who can tell me if it could actually work in the real world?)

Forget that. Drummond & PG13 would be the dream, not Melo.

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 06:02:51 PM »

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Is there even a way to get PG13 + Drummond without having tremendous cap issues?

Especially next season hypothetically?
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 06:03:14 PM »

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Forget that. Drummond & PG13 would be the dream, not Melo.

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 06:08:01 PM »

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Is there even a way to get PG13 + Drummond without having tremendous cap issues?

Especially next season hypothetically?

I'm pretty sure money wise if we traded Bradley, Crowder, and had cap filler, we probably wouldn't have that much room except for the MLE.

We would have to renounce literally all of our free agents.

It wouldn't really matter though.

Plenty of seasoned veterans would love to join us.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2017, 06:11:36 PM »

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Is there even a way to get PG13 + Drummond without having tremendous cap issues?

Especially next season hypothetically?

I'm pretty sure money wise if we traded Bradley, Crowder, and had cap filler, we probably wouldn't have that much room except for the MLE.

We would have to renounce literally all of our free agents.

It wouldn't really matter though.

Plenty of seasoned veterans would love to join us.

I REALLY don't want to lose Crowder though.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2017, 06:12:38 PM »

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Is there even a way to get PG13 + Drummond without having tremendous cap issues?

Especially next season hypothetically?

I'm pretty sure money wise if we traded Bradley, Crowder, and had cap filler, we probably wouldn't have that much room except for the MLE.

We would have to renounce literally all of our free agents.

It wouldn't really matter though.

Plenty of seasoned veterans would love to join us.

I REALLY don't want to lose Crowder though.

Crowder would have to be sent out to at least match salaries for Drummond or PG13.

Crowder, Bradley, Amir, and Zeller would have to be sent out to match salaries. We really wouldn't have cap flexibility. I'll do the numbers later, unless Saltlover beats me to it lol. And if he does, there's a TP waiting for him haha.
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Can't define how I be dropping these mockeries."

Is the glass half-full or half-empty?
It's based on your perspective, quite simply
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Re: Forget Butler and PG13, I want Drummond and Melo
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2017, 06:15:30 PM »

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Melo would absolutely kill this team that is based on ball movement. He is a horrid defender and a ball hog and a cancer to a team. No way Danny wants him at all, let alone with almost 80 million owed to him the next three years.

Drummond on the other hand would be a plus if we were able to keep our low picks plus core guys. He's just not a complete Center so you can't give away too much or you've hurt yourselves.

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2017, 06:25:19 PM »

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Is there even a way to get PG13 + Drummond without having tremendous cap issues?

Especially next season hypothetically?

I'm pretty sure money wise if we traded Bradley, Crowder, and had cap filler, we probably wouldn't have that much room except for the MLE.

We would have to renounce literally all of our free agents.

It wouldn't really matter though.

Plenty of seasoned veterans would love to join us.

I REALLY don't want to lose Crowder though.

Crowder would have to be sent out to at least match salaries for Drummond or PG13.

Crowder, Bradley, Amir, and Zeller would have to be sent out to match salaries. We really wouldn't have cap flexibility. I'll do the numbers later, unless Saltlover beats me to it lol. And if he does, there's a TP waiting for him haha.

If we're getting George and Drummond, who cares about cap flexibility?

Zeller+Bradley+Brooklyn 2017 for George.
Amir+Jerebko+Rozier+Brooklyn 2018, Memphis 2019, and Zizic for Drummond.

I like the Drummond trade particularly because Amir and Jerebko started their NBA careers in Detroit, so there's a nice symmetry.  Meanwhile, Zeller is from Indiana.

The salaries are very easy to do.  The negotiation, both with the other teams and management in terms of 2018 payroll, is obviously more difficult.

Next season we'd have a roster of:

IT
Smart
Brown
Crowder
George
Drummond
Horford
Jackson
Yabusele
Olynyk (depending how rich management feels)
Nader
Minny 2nd
MLE
Bi-Annual
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