Bogut or Cauley-Stein

[action781]

WCS was the #6 overall pick just two drafts ago and has moments this season where he's shown some nice potential despite not getting a ton of minutes.  The idea that Sacramento wants to give him up for Rozier or two second round picks or a non-lotto first round pick is crazy.  Yes, I would love to add him to the Celtics, but why exactly does Sacramento want to trade him away?

Because Sacramento shifts gears every 6 months.  WCS could be no longer the flavor of two months ago, much less last month.

Yeah, you could be right there.  They have stuck with McLemore despite him not looking that great, but then there's Stauskas and Jimmer and Thomas Robinson who all back up your case.  I think WCS has shown better potential than Stauskas, Jimmer, and T-Rob, but I guess you're right... Sac does move pieces around like they are on a chess board so who knows.

[jambr380]

I think the WCS #6 pick narrative is a bit overrated. On draft night, injury concerns had him possibly falling to (or past) us at #16 where we took Rozier.

http://fansided.com/2015/06/25/nba-draft-rumors-willie-cauley-stein-falltop-15/

The only thing that seemed to save him was Cousins wanting to play PF and Sac doing everything they could to make that possible. The WCS at #6 was always considered a bad idea.

So, yes, I could absolutely see Sac dealing WCS for Rozier, Mickey and our 2nds this year (Minny 2nd included). Maybe it would require our 2018 1st instead, but I would rather this deal than Ibaka - who seems destined for a sharp decline and a humongous increase in pay.

[td450]

Anyone with any business experience will tell you it's a mistake to weigh sunken costs when valuing any asset. You have to look at present value. WCS and Terry Rozier have NBA track records, and where they were drafted is irrelevant.

I think its safe to say that Josh Richardson, who was chosen 40th in the same, is worth more than either of these guys.

[Bobshot]

I'm beginning to think Ainge/Stevens (and it's the both of them controlling personnel) are going to sit this one out, too, like they did last year. Not unless they do a blockbuster at the deadline.
That's still possible.

Strikes me they have a golden opportunity to get home court now that Love is hurt. They should be working to improve themselves with tactical moves. Maybe the price for Ibaka was too steep, though I view those no.1s in the 20s not so important and Rozier is no one to kill a trade. Maybe they have a better target. Nurkic could have been had for less, perhaps. I don't know what was wrong with him.

Is Danny playing too hard to get? I'm not ready to say that right now. But Love has just given him a Valentine's Day present, and he should seize the day.

[CoachBo]

I think the WCS #6 pick narrative is a bit overrated. On draft night, injury concerns had him possibly falling to (or past) us at #16 where we took Rozier.

http://fansided.com/2015/06/25/nba-draft-rumors-willie-cauley-stein-falltop-15/

The only thing that seemed to save him was Cousins wanting to play PF and Sac doing everything they could to make that possible. The WCS at #6 was always considered a bad idea.

So, yes, I could absolutely see Sac dealing WCS for Rozier, Mickey and our 2nds this year (Minny 2nd included). Maybe it would require our 2018 1st instead, but I would rather this deal than Ibaka - who seems destined for a sharp decline and a humongous increase in pay.

All I can see is Divac laughing himself to death over such a ridiculous lowball offer. That offer is an insult to the Kings.

[tarheelsxxiii]

c) Neither

[Smitty77]

It is ODD that Bogut played 18 minutes on the 15th and got 4 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal, and 1 assist AFTER playing ZERO minutes in the previous 8 games!!!

I would give up Young and maybe a second rounder to get him (the Minny second currently would be 36th pick).

Smitty77

[Geo123]

It is ODD that Bogut played 18 minutes on the 15th and got 4 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal, and 1 assist AFTER playing ZERO minutes in the previous 8 games!!!

I would give up Young and maybe a second rounder to get him (the Minny second currently would be 36th pick).

Smitty77

Good deal, nothing more though. 

He's a guy who's only played 26 games this year so he's hard to count on...

[elcotte]

I think the WCS #6 pick narrative is a bit overrated. On draft night, injury concerns had him possibly falling to (or past) us at #16 where we took Rozier.

http://fansided.com/2015/06/25/nba-draft-rumors-willie-cauley-stein-falltop-15/

The only thing that seemed to save him was Cousins wanting to play PF and Sac doing everything they could to make that possible. The WCS at #6 was always considered a bad idea.

So, yes, I could absolutely see Sac dealing WCS for Rozier, Mickey and our 2nds this year (Minny 2nd included). Maybe it would require our 2018 1st instead, but I would rather this deal than Ibaka - who seems destined for a sharp decline and a humongous increase in pay.

All I can see is Divac laughing himself to death over such a ridiculous lowball offer. That offer is an insult to the Kings.

Why? Is WCS headed to the Hall of Fame?
Bo don't know.

[mahcussmaht]

WCS because of age.

[Irish Stew]

I like the way the team is playing recently...especially the bench. The ball is moving, no hesitation...too bad the break is coming. Smart, KO, Green and Rozier are really playing well.

I think a small deal to get Bogut or Cauley Stein would be the final piece for this year. There is no need to disrupt the entire chemistry of the team. If we can make it to the ECF that will go a long way to signing FAs and dangling the #1 pick.

Moving Jerebko, Zeller, Amir and Rozier for WCS and Afflalo would work. Afflalo would be a good wing defender and scorer off the bench. You would need Crowder and Afflalo to rotate defending LeBron because Jaylen Brown may not be ready for that task. WCS gives us a rim protector.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zjryk8q

The OP's proposal sends too much salary to SAC.

[colincb]

Bogut - Yes, via buyout. Maybe he can be a backup big next season.

WCS - no

[PAOBoston]

I don't get the obsession with WCS. He's really not that good.

I wouldn't waste anything of value for Bogut via trade. Maybe if he gets bought out.

[spikelovetheCelts]

I don't get the obsession with WCS. He's really not that good.

I wouldn't waste anything of value for Bogut via trade. Maybe if he gets bought out.

Give them a bottom Second rounder for bogut. He will not make it through waivers to us. 

[Bobshot]

I think Ainge would have drafted WCS if he could have. Don't know what he thinks now. Certainly an option, if they can get him for Rozier plus a pick.

I'd push for Bogut, then try to pry George from Larry. Bird will deal George if he thinks he can't sign him.