WOJ : Boston in pursuit to engage trade talks about Butler and George

[LGC88]

"Boston’s shown minimal interest in Anthony, preferring to continue its pursuit of persuading Chicago (Jimmy Butler) and Indiana (Paul George) to engage in trade talks that involve two younger, more well-rounded stars."

WOJ article :
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-phil-jacksons-public-actions-steeling-melos-resolve-to-stay-with-knicks-204859718.html

[Evantime34]

This is why you won't see a deal made until right before the deadline. The C's are waiting to see if they can pry George or Butler, before making a move for a big or a smaller move.

I don't think there is any way Indiana deals George unless he tells Larry Legend that he wants to be traded/won't sign a contract.

Butler seems more likely, but with all the rumors of the C's trading for a star turning into nothing, I will believe we trade for a star when it actually happens.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Let's get both.

[LGC88]

I'm sure Danny makes his bi-annual phone calls about AD and other top players too, just to check the temperature and value of players.
You never know what players think. Some should be traded but don't leave (Cousins). Some should stay but leave (Durant).
I'm all for George. He'll be a hell of an upgrade for us. Specially during Playoff, this guy is a beast.

[RJ87]

This is why you won't see a deal made until right before the deadline. The C's are waiting to see if they can pry George or Butler, before making a move for a big or a smaller move.

I don't think there is any way Indiana deals George unless he tells Larry Legend that he wants to be traded/won't sign a contract.

Butler seems more likely, but with all the rumors of the C's trading for a star turning into nothing, I will believe we trade for a star when it actually happens.

Paul George has always been the guy to me. He'd make a ton of sense on this roster, but this season may be too early for Indy to deal him unless he tells Larry he wants out. It's a possibility he will - Indy has made a ton of questionable moves (firing Frank Vogel, signing Monta and then bring in Teague) and they have no improvement to show for it. It's also worth noting Paul may not be eligible for the designated player max when he's extension eligible unless he makes an all NBA team. Indy would still be able to pay him more, but he may not mind taking a paycut to leave in FA if it isn't such a steep one. So yeah, I don't think it's going to happen but I wouldn't complete rule it out.

Butler is 50/50 to me as far as availability.

[Denis998]

Cue the instant rage when we get neither JB or PG.

[saltlover]

Indy has played really well of late, winning 15 of their last 20.  Their next six games before the All-Star break will be rough.  2 each against the Cavs and Wizards, and also home games against the Spurs and Bucks.  If they come out of that stretch 3-3, they'll probably feel emboldened (and rightfully so.). If they get obliterated and go 1-5 or 0-6, then maybe they'll reconsider.

[vgulab]

DA has the assets to make big trade happen, but i don't see Pacers or Bulls trading their stars mid season. Non of those teams are tanking or plan to tank.

George to me is more likely to be traded than Butler but not now. If things don't go well in Indiana i see Bird pulling the trigger. And for Bulls, i remember last season when they were shopping him and asking to much for him. Meaning they will continue to shop him but the price will be unreasonable. Unless some team is ready to pay a LOT for Butler they will not trade him.

So maybe we need to keep and eye on Indiana. Bird is a GM who doesn't sit and wait to long, if he sees something wrong he is ready to trade anybody.

But, my preference for a shooting forward star is still Hayward.

[Moranis]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

[vgulab]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

I guess you forgot to put Fultz or Ball in the rotation

[A Future of Stevens]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

We wouldn't ever be able to get a rebound, but man we could score the ball. Also with adding George we would be even deadlier defensively.

I just think we would need a 1st big off the bench that is great at rebounding so that we can slide him in for Anthony when other teams start to feast on us.

[A Future of Stevens]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

I guess you forgot to put Fultz or Ball in the rotation

BOS 17 is technically BRK 17. Or it will be once we swap it.

[LGC88]

Like I said, it all depends on the player and how he sees his future.
Pacers are doing well like every year, they are playoff caliber and most likely eliminated in 2nd round.
But do they have a legit shot to win ECF in the next 3 years? They have no assets and Turner is good but he's not a superstar and probably won't be in 3 years.
If George really want a title or to seriously compete (like he did few years ago) he might think about going to Boston.
Who knows...

[tankcity!]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

I would trade Jaylen Brown for Paul George. Please god, let Bird do us a favor.  Unlike Butler, George is a top ten player imo. Some poster tried to make an attempt to say George's teams were good when they were on their run, which made no sense since he was playing against two top 5 players, and Bosh, who was a top 15 player at the time. David West was coming off a torn ACL, he was above 31 at the time...I mean seriously, that was his 2nd best player. And George Hill was not as good as he is today.

Please, Paul George has never had all star teammates. He made Hibbert into something. Look at the guy now. Lance Stephenson clearly stinks too. Also he has played in a terrible offensive system. 

Drop the mic....

[vgulab]

I don't see why Anthony would necessarily preclude George or Butler. 

I mean if you can get Anthony for something Amir, Zeller, Young, plus some future 1st (like Boston 2019).  You could then acquire George or Butler with Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, and one of the BKN picks (and other 1st's as required).  Other players in both tradess added in coming to Boston to help fill out the roster

So trade with Indy for George
Crowder, Brown, Jerekbo, BOS 17, BOS 18 for George, Seraphin

So trade with NY for Anthony
Johnson, Zeller, Young, BOS 19 for Anthony, Plumlee, Vujacic

So post-trades (1 open roster spot and still having BKN 18, MEM, LAC picks)

PG - Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG - Bradley, Smart, Vujacic
SF - George, Green
PF - Anthony, Olynyk, Mickey
C - Horford, Seraphin, Plumlee

I guess you forgot to put Fultz or Ball in the rotation

BOS 17 is technically BRK 17.

Then the price for George is too big and DA will never do that trade and pay that much