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Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2017, 06:16:24 PM »

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If you could combine the '86 and '08 Teams by Position:

Starters:
Dennis Johnson
Ray Allen
Larry Bird
KG
Robert Parish

2nd Unit:
Rondo
Ainge
Pierce
McHale
Perkins
Larry Bird was Greater than you think.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2017, 06:57:19 PM »

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Just kidding ... it's Bird.

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Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2017, 07:15:22 PM »

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If you could combine the '86 and '08 Teams by Position:

Starters:
Dennis Johnson
Ray Allen
Larry Bird
KG
Robert Parish

2nd Unit:
Rondo
Ainge
Pierce
McHale
Perkins
Not knocking your list.  But imo move kg to center and chief to bench.  Add mchale to starters.
I'd love to see ainge vs ray.  Danny was an incredible athlete and I think his all around game might win out.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2017, 07:28:04 PM »

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If you could combine the '86 and '08 Teams by Position:

Starters:
Dennis Johnson
Ray Allen
Larry Bird
KG
Robert Parish

2nd Unit:
Rondo
Ainge
Pierce
McHale
Perkins
Not knocking your list.  But imo move kg to center and chief to bench.  Add mchale to starters.
I'd love to see ainge vs ray.  Danny was an incredible athlete and I think his all around game might win out.

My Starters are 5 Hall of Famers, playing their actual positions......Bench, 2 HOF's
Larry Bird was Greater than you think.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2017, 07:36:00 PM »

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Love Pierce....but he would be coming off the Bench for the 1986 Celtics.

Hmm...

Maybe. He fits the Hondo profile.

I'd love to have both Bird and PP in there, though. Maybe bring Danny off the pine.


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Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2017, 07:42:51 PM »

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If you could combine the '86 and '08 Teams by Position:

Starters:
Dennis Johnson
Ray Allen
Larry Bird
KG
Robert Parish

2nd Unit:
Rondo
Ainge
Pierce
McHale
Perkins
Not knocking your list.  But imo move kg to center and chief to bench.  Add mchale to starters.
I'd love to see ainge vs ray.  Danny was an incredible athlete and I think his all around game might win out.

My Starters are 5 Hall of Famers, playing their actual positions......Bench, 2 HOF's
Too many HOF to choose from!  Guess for center depends if the team is playing 86 centers or 08 centers.  So danny vs ray?

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2017, 07:43:23 PM »

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If you could combine the '86 and '08 Teams by Position:

Starters:
Dennis Johnson
Ray Allen
Larry Bird
KG
Robert Parish

2nd Unit:
Rondo
Ainge
Pierce
McHale
Perkins
Not knocking your list.  But imo move kg to center and chief to bench.  Add mchale to starters.
I'd love to see ainge vs ray.  Danny was an incredible athlete and I think his all around game might win out.

Also Bill Walton over Perk. Perk's the end of bench guy who comes out when we need some heads knocked 80s style.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2017, 07:46:06 PM »

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Couldn't remember exact year when guys were injured but walton, scotty wedman and jerry schisting were a great bench.  I'd add in greg kite was arguably at perks level but didn't get the pt that perk had.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2017, 08:13:14 PM »

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Bird came from a more physical league and didn't shoot the 3 as much. I think Bird would've gone wild in the no hand check age with the flagrant fouls etc... Hard to compare but I clearly think Bird was better with a higher level of competition.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2017, 09:00:46 PM »

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Actually, the only reason this is close is optics. Bird actually was a pretty good athlete, but he couldn't jump, and he was below average laterally. It just looked harder for Bird.

Pierce was a much more fluid and explosive athlete, with an almost perfect balance of every important offensive skill. He missed, but he never looked like he couldn't get off his shot.

But if you then consider the numbers and the actual performances, while Pierce posted numbers that were worthy of a major star, the numbers say Bird was substantially more efficient. He was the founding member of the 50-40-90 club.

Either guy could go out in a big game and beat you practically by himself. But Bird did it more often, and he did it with less shots.

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2017, 09:16:29 PM »

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Actually, the only reason this is close is optics. Bird actually was a pretty good athlete, but he couldn't jump, and he was below average laterally. It just looked harder for Bird.

Pierce was a much more fluid and explosive athlete, with an almost perfect balance of every important offensive skill. He missed, but he never looked like he couldn't get off his shot.

But if you then consider the numbers and the actual performances, while Pierce posted numbers that were worthy of a major star, the numbers say Bird was substantially more efficient. He was the founding member of the 50-40-90 club.

Either guy could go out in a big game and beat you practically by himself. But Bird did it more often, and he did it with less shots.

Bird could beat you with little or no shots. LB could beat you with steals, rebounds and passing.Truly unique basketball genius!

Re: Bird vs. Pierce...best pure scorer
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2017, 09:44:37 PM »

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Only 2 drunk people should have this convo...is this really a debate?  Not taking anything away from Paul but he's never been nor will he ever be recognized as being on Larry Legends level.

Paul was great but Larry is greatNESS!!
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