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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2017, 12:06:29 AM »

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Man, these two guys both look very good.  They both should have excellent NBA careers.

Some smaller things I love about Lonzo:
-You can tell this kid LOVES to play basketball.  He has fun playing and infuses fun into his teammates.  He is the kind of guy who could create a GSW-like team atmosphere the way Curry did before Durant came.
-He has a terrific springy knack for the ball.  He sees loose balls the moment they are about to occur and immediately accelerates towards them.  Same with rebounds.
-I like the way he takes off down the court when he anticipates a teammate is about to get a loose ball or rebound.  He is occasionally wrong which leaves his team out to dry, but I like the instinct.
-Terrific zip on his passes.  He also does a very good job not broadcasting where his passes are about to go.

Things I don't like about him:
-I don't think he shoots enough.  I like that and I don't like it.
-His defense leaves a bit to be desired.  He gambles too much.  But honestly, I've been coming around to the idea lately that point guard is so hard to defend in the NBA I almost don't mind a gambling defender if it pays off decently, which it seems to for Lonzo.

Part of me is thinking, how cool would it be for Phoenix to get Ball?  A core of Ball, Devin Booker, TJ Warren, Chriss, and Bender would be really cool.
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2017, 12:20:13 AM »

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I wonder what Danny is thinking, sitting there court side!

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2017, 12:25:04 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2017, 12:35:51 AM »

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Really either player would be a great pick.  What is the % chance we get a top 2 pick?  I know # 1 is like 25%. 

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2017, 12:42:05 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.
Really? Iirc Fultz has way better measurements in wingspan and he's a bit taller. That would do well to neutralize what he gives up in athleticism to ball imo
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2017, 12:42:41 AM »

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Really either player would be a great pick.  What is the % chance we get a top 2 pick?  I know # 1 is like 25%.
40 something % iirc
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2017, 12:46:10 AM »

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Really either player would be a great pick.  What is the % chance we get a top 2 pick?  I know # 1 is like 25%.
40 something % iirc

1st pick: 25%
Top 2:    46.5%
Top 3:    64.3%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2017, 01:00:53 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.
Really? Iirc Fultz has way better measurements in wingspan and he's a bit taller. That would do well to neutralize what he gives up in athleticism to ball imo

Everything I've seen has said Ball is 6'6 and Fultz 6'4, and that's about how it looks.  I know Fultz has a long wing span, not sure what Ball's is, but he "plays long", especially defensively where he gets his hands on a lot of passes.

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 01:01:29 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.
Really? Iirc Fultz has way better measurements in wingspan and he's a bit taller. That would do well to neutralize what he gives up in athleticism to ball imo
You're definitely not recalling correctly.  Ball is without question taller.  Unsure about wingspans off the top of my head.  They both have pretty good wing spans.
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2017, 01:10:02 AM »

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I don't know too much about these guys...if they switched teams how would each guy fair?

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2017, 01:27:07 AM »

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I don't know too much about these guys...if they switched teams how would each guy fair?
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2017, 01:39:20 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.
Really? Iirc Fultz has way better measurements in wingspan and he's a bit taller. That would do well to neutralize what he gives up in athleticism to ball imo
You're definitely not recalling correctly.  Ball is without question taller.  Unsure about wingspans off the top of my head.  They both have pretty good wing spans.


 Ball 6'7" wingspan. Fultz 6'10"

 Ball is 6'4" shoes off everyone is calling him 6'6" he is a huge point guard.

 Fultz is probably 6'2.5" no shoes. Maybe 6'3"

 Crazy wingspan though.


Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2017, 02:00:38 AM »

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Go UCLA! Ball is a Jedi Ninja

 Ball just Blocked Fultzs Jumpshot and scored! I knew he was better!

 Ball is so much better than Fultz it's actually funny. Ball is just a winner. Fultz get's numbers.
The big gave up on the screen as Fultz went up for the shot which allowed Ball to block it.




 Ball is a better basketball player right now. Just give me that. Fultz may have more upside, but Ball is on another Level at this stage.
I think its the other way around.



 Wait, your saying Fultz is better now and Ball has more upside?
I'd agree.  I think Ball has more upside.  Better athlete and better overall feel for the game, which is hard to teach.  Fultz is a more polished player at this point.
Really? Iirc Fultz has way better measurements in wingspan and he's a bit taller. That would do well to neutralize what he gives up in athleticism to ball imo
You're definitely not recalling correctly.  Ball is without question taller.  Unsure about wingspans off the top of my head.  They both have pretty good wing spans.


 Ball 6'7" wingspan. Fultz 6'10"

 Ball is 6'4" shoes off everyone is calling him 6'6" he is a huge point guard.

 Fultz is probably 6'2.5" no shoes. Maybe 6'3"

 Crazy wingspan though.
Sorry about me recalling things incorrectly, but still I think Fultz is growing, he grew from 6'4 with shoes to 6'4.75 with shoes from 2015 to 2016. Anyways his wingspan is insane and I think it will help him on D more so than Ball's height. Both are great prospects but I'd still pick fultz, due to him being more polished and even younger than ball
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Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2017, 06:29:50 AM »

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Ht is overrated...look at KO
Always go for wingspan.

Re: Stream Lonzo Ball vs Fultz right now!
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2017, 07:00:08 AM »

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Fultz's competitive desire is really questionable.