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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #435 on: February 16, 2017, 07:29:45 PM »

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Vice Admiral Harward refused Trump's offer to replace Flynn as NSA head.  Jake Tapper reports that according to a friend of Harward's he was concerned about the chaos in the White House and called the offer a "<insert poop emoji> sandwich".

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« Reply #436 on: February 16, 2017, 07:58:54 PM »

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Vice Admiral Harward refused Trump's offer to replace Flynn as NSA head.  Jake Tapper reports that according to a friend of Harward's he was concerned about the chaos in the White House and called the offer a "<insert poop emoji> sandwich".

I saw the same. Had been wondering how to post about it without violating CB rules... :)
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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #437 on: February 16, 2017, 08:00:27 PM »

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Vice Admiral Harward refused Trump's offer to replace Flynn as NSA head.  Jake Tapper reports that according to a friend of Harward's he was concerned about the chaos in the White House and called the offer a "<insert poop emoji> sandwich".

I wouldn't want to touch it, either. Why be a civil servant when you've got a lucrative gig at Lockheed Martin? Beyond the mess, it's "been there done that", with a heck of a lot less money.


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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #438 on: February 16, 2017, 08:06:40 PM »

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Vice Admiral Harward refused Trump's offer to replace Flynn as NSA head.  Jake Tapper reports that according to a friend of Harward's he was concerned about the chaos in the White House and called the offer a "<insert poop emoji> sandwich".

I wouldn't want to touch it, either. Why be a civil servant when you've got a lucrative gig at Lockheed Martin? Beyond the mess, it's "been there done that", with a heck of a lot less money.

This isn't about current salary. This is more than your typical civil servant job. Two years as head of NSC and Harward could go back into private sector and make way more than he is making now. This is about not wanting to work for a specific boss.
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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #439 on: February 16, 2017, 09:51:59 PM »

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Vice Admiral Harward refused Trump's offer to replace Flynn as NSA head.  Jake Tapper reports that according to a friend of Harward's he was concerned about the chaos in the White House and called the offer a "<insert poop emoji> sandwich".

I wouldn't want to touch it, either. Why be a civil servant when you've got a lucrative gig at Lockheed Martin? Beyond the mess, it's "been there done that", with a heck of a lot less money.

This isn't about current salary. This is more than your typical civil servant job. Two years as head of NSC and Harward could go back into private sector and make way more than he is making now. This is about not wanting to work for a specific boss.

I think the '2 years' thing is the crux. The private sector would be even bigger for a guy who left the job with a good standing.

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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #440 on: February 16, 2017, 09:54:07 PM »

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So apparently Trump is already calling certain functions "campaign events." Now, some are humorously pointing out that we shouldnt appoint a supreme court justice during a campaign.

But, aoparently this also means he needs to fund his own travel and accomodations. Anyone know?

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« Reply #441 on: February 16, 2017, 10:17:00 PM »

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But, aoparently this also means he needs to fund his own travel and accomodations. Anyone know?

If he uses Air Force One, he (or the RNC) has to reimburse the government for the cost of a charter flight (not the actual cost of Air Force One). If a flight is partially for official business, it becomes more complicated.


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« Reply #442 on: February 16, 2017, 10:46:36 PM »

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So apparently Trump is already calling certain functions "campaign events." Now, some are humorously pointing out that we shouldnt appoint a supreme court justice during a campaign.

But, aoparently this also means he needs to fund his own travel and accomodations. Anyone know?

He filed as a 2020 candidate on Inauguration Day. Allows him to fundraise his entire term I believe.  It's cynical and opens up lots of conflict of interest opportunities but those have never been issues for Trump so it probably makes sense.

Having a campaign rally <1 month into a term is awfully bizarre, though.

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« Reply #443 on: February 16, 2017, 11:31:07 PM »

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So apparently Trump is already calling certain functions "campaign events." Now, some are humorously pointing out that we shouldnt appoint a supreme court justice during a campaign.

But, aoparently this also means he needs to fund his own travel and accomodations. Anyone know?

He filed as a 2020 candidate on Inauguration Day. Allows him to fundraise his entire term I believe.  It's cynical and opens up lots of conflict of interest opportunities but those have never been issues for Trump so it probably makes sense.

Having a campaign rally <1 month into a term is awfully bizarre, though.

In addition, it means that Federal Government employees now have been advised they have extra prohibitions on speaking out against Trump.  Because he is a political candidate, doing so would be seen as electioneering and violate the Hatch Act.

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« Reply #444 on: February 16, 2017, 11:37:34 PM »

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So apparently Trump is already calling certain functions "campaign events." Now, some are humorously pointing out that we shouldnt appoint a supreme court justice during a campaign.

But, aoparently this also means he needs to fund his own travel and accomodations. Anyone know?

He filed as a 2020 candidate on Inauguration Day. Allows him to fundraise his entire term I believe.  It's cynical and opens up lots of conflict of interest opportunities but those have never been issues for Trump so it probably makes sense.

Having a campaign rally <1 month into a term is awfully bizarre, though.
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To be clear, all recent Presidents have done fundraisers from just about day one. The distinction is that Obama, Bush, etc did it in the name of their party.


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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #445 on: February 16, 2017, 11:40:00 PM »

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I think Trump is radicalizing the democratic party.

Can the Democratic party get any more radical than it already is?

I mean, I guess it can, but considering who the power players in the party currently are, I'd say the party has already gone way too far to the left.

Is that a reaction to Republicans going way too far to the right, or vice versa? I imagine the answer depends on who you ask, and what their political leanings are.

Nah, bruh.  Nobody who considers themselves "left" has any patience for Democrats anymore. 

We're talking serious re-distribution.  The Oligarchy of the Very Rich that is supported by both mainstream parties needs to be scrapped.
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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #446 on: February 17, 2017, 10:48:15 AM »

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I think Trump is radicalizing the democratic party.

Can the Democratic party get any more radical than it already is?

I mean, I guess it can, but considering who the power players in the party currently are, I'd say the party has already gone way too far to the left.

Is that a reaction to Republicans going way too far to the right, or vice versa? I imagine the answer depends on who you ask, and what their political leanings are.

Nah, bruh.  Nobody who considers themselves "left" has any patience for Democrats anymore. 

We're talking serious re-distribution.  The Oligarchy of the Very Rich that is supported by both mainstream parties needs to be scrapped.
I'm guessing it's good then that not many seem to "consider themselves left". The radicalism among Democrats is as repulsive as the Tea Party once was -- and I don't mean the one that threw bales in the harbor.
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Re: The President Trump Thread
« Reply #447 on: February 17, 2017, 11:06:38 AM »

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I think Trump is radicalizing the democratic party.

Can the Democratic party get any more radical than it already is?

I mean, I guess it can, but considering who the power players in the party currently are, I'd say the party has already gone way too far to the left.

Is that a reaction to Republicans going way too far to the right, or vice versa? I imagine the answer depends on who you ask, and what their political leanings are.

Nah, bruh.  Nobody who considers themselves "left" has any patience for Democrats anymore. 

We're talking serious re-distribution.  The Oligarchy of the Very Rich that is supported by both mainstream parties needs to be scrapped.
I'm guessing it's good then that not many seem to "consider themselves left". The radicalism among Democrats is as repulsive as the Tea Party once was -- and I don't mean the one that threw bales in the harbor.

What do you see that is "radical" on the US left?

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« Reply #448 on: February 17, 2017, 11:35:02 AM »

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What do you see that is "radical" on the US left?
Between BLM, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, what isn't?

There are multiple radical ideas that the new brand of left is aggressively pushing right now:

* that we should pass and maintain untenably high federal minimum wage levels,
* that we should introduce a large amount of fully federally funded public services (healthcare, college education, you name it),
* that it's ok to attribute relatively trivial issues on race and some sort of "racial divide".

While I agree that a society should provide a basic level of fairness and justice to everyone, I can't get behind a left that chooses to preach a forced equality in an unapologetically socialist way.
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« Reply #449 on: February 17, 2017, 12:00:50 PM »

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What do you see that is "radical" on the US left?
Between BLM, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, what isn't?

There are multiple radical ideas that the new brand of left is aggressively pushing right now:

* that we should pass and maintain untenably high federal minimum wage levels,
* that we should introduce a large amount of fully federally funded public services (healthcare, college education, you name it),
* that it's ok to attribute relatively trivial issues on race and some sort of "racial divide".

While I agree that a society should provide a basic level of fairness and justice to everyone, I can't get behind a left that chooses to preach a forced equality in an unapologetically socialist way.
I'm loosely with you - definitely on the public tuition and probably on universal healthcare.  I think Warren and Sanders are great voices but both too far left for my taste.  I think the racial issue is complex and I don't have a problem with the BLM movement - though I don't see the movement being part of the party's platform