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Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:48:58 PM »

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http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/31/14453740/trump-medicare-prescription-drugs

All it took was 1 meeting with pharma leaders to have him drop his promise on prescription drug negotiation.

How about that independence?! That spine?! That toughness?! That defender of the little guy?! Only guy with the guts and private wealth to stand up to the powers?!

What a joke.

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 12:50:48 PM »

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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
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I honestly was routing for the positives that Trump preached as a consolation but so far he has back down from those good things and still he keeps all the negatives.. Dude is a sell out and a slime ball. At least if he did the good things he promised we can bare it but the guy looks like he needs to go not even a month in. He is going for record low approval.
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 12:58:50 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 01:01:48 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

I think it's sad that wanting competition in the pricing of pharmaceuticals has become a "liberal" position.  In the not distant past, liberals wanted price caps and conservatives wanted competition.  Now conservatives apparently want monopoly.

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 01:05:07 PM »

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Until he does something thought out, rational, good, yes.

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start a pro trump/unbiased topic
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 01:07:49 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 01:08:58 PM »

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I honestly was routing for the positives that Trump preached as a consolation but so far he has back down from those good things and still he keeps all the negatives.. Dude is a sell out and a slime ball. At least if he did the good things he promised we can bare it but the guy looks like he needs to go not even a month in. He is going for record low approval.


Ditto. I had high hopes for fiscal policy stimulus (particularly infrastructure spending), but its been none of the potential good stuff, and instead a lot of bad stuff (IMO), and the bad stuff has been rolled out entirely ham-handedly. It seems like he doesn't have a clue. Its embarrassing.
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 01:38:19 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read

63% oppose the building of the wall (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/pew-immigration-wall-227367)

"Just 41 percent of Americans supported a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country who are not U.S. citizens, according to an August 2016 ABC News/Washington Post poll." (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-trumps-refugee-ban-have-public-support/)

Two of his biggest campaign promises. Not exactly 50/50

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2017, 01:39:39 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read


Yeah, from what ive seen most Trump voters were basically "im not a racist but i want trump to fix the economy and stick up for the little guy."

Then a much smaller number who want the racist stuff and the economic/little guy promises

I dont know of any who were like "i don't care about economy stuff, i only like the racist stuff".

Now, so far trump is just following through on the bigot stuff but ignoring or reversing on the economy and defending the little guy stuff. Hence the historically low approval ratings.
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
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This was one of the few things Trump proposed that I both was in favor of and thought he might be uniquely able to do, not being beholden to the pharma industry as so many career Ds and Rs are. Welp.


Now, so far trump is just following through on the bigot stuff but ignoring or reversing on the economy and defending the little guy stuff. Hence the historically low approval ratings.

A paraphrase of a quote I read awhile back - Authoritarians usually learn very fast that it's far easier to make life harder for the groups they promised to hurt than it is to make life better for the groups they promised to help.
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read

63% oppose the building of the wall (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/pew-immigration-wall-227367)

"Just 41 percent of Americans supported a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country who are not U.S. citizens, according to an August 2016 ABC News/Washington Post poll." (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-trumps-refugee-ban-have-public-support/)

Two of his biggest campaign promises. Not exactly 50/50

Keep believing the polls.  This past election should show you don't always believe that junk. 

Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 02:06:27 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read

63% oppose the building of the wall (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/pew-immigration-wall-227367)

"Just 41 percent of Americans supported a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country who are not U.S. citizens, according to an August 2016 ABC News/Washington Post poll." (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-trumps-refugee-ban-have-public-support/)

Two of his biggest campaign promises. Not exactly 50/50

Keep believing the polls.  This past election should show you don't always believe that junk.

You are suggesting that everyone who voted for him agrees 100% with all his policies. You and I know that's not the case. There are many here on Cblog who said they were essentially "holding their nose" and voting for Trump. They liked some of his policies, really didn't like others, but on net preferred him over the alternative.

Note: this isn't a dictatorship. Americans don't have to agree with what their leader does.
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Re: Trump sells out again after 1 meeting (pharma)
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2017, 02:12:50 PM »

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Does every single political thread have to have a liberal or anti-Trump bias?

Trump's first 10 days have been disastrous. He's flip-flopped, while acting on campaign promises that made him one of the most unpopular candidates in presidential history. The way the country voted prove that, his approval numbers prove that, and the most recent demonstrations prove that. Liberal bias? Not so much. One of the most unpopular presidents in history is more like it.

Campaign promises supported by roughly half the populace, and I would expect that in its representation here, but I guess I have to be more careful what I read

63% oppose the building of the wall (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/pew-immigration-wall-227367)

"Just 41 percent of Americans supported a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country who are not U.S. citizens, according to an August 2016 ABC News/Washington Post poll." (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-trumps-refugee-ban-have-public-support/)

Two of his biggest campaign promises. Not exactly 50/50

Keep believing the polls.  This past election should show you don't always believe that junk.

You mean the polls that were pretty spot on? Showed Hillary with about a 2.5% advantage (Which she won by). And the same polls that predicted toss ups in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and New Hampshire? I will happily believe those polls.