Poll: What prospect fits our team Best 2017

[clevelandceltic]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

[KG Living Legend]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

 TP like sports. I'm really with you on all three players. Love them all for the Celtics!

[Denis998]

Patton

 Patton with the Nets pick would take some serious sack. You sure you ready to make that call.

Question is best fit. Starting lineup needs a big man. Patton is the best big man.

Edit: I don't see a clear #2 in this draft yet. I do have Patton in the mix for that pick along with Dennis Smith Jr, Isaac, Tatum, Josh Jackson (who is growing on me). Not convinced by Ball either as I have stated in the past. Monk and Fox in the 5-10 range.

I really like Patton. I think he has got a lot of talent. I don't think he is franchise player but not sure the others are either (Dennis Smith Jr?).

I think Horford is best playing the 5. With that in mind, Isaac might be the best fit player to play the 4 alongside him.

[max215]

Best fit is BPA.

[Who]

Patton

 Patton with the Nets pick would take some serious sack. You sure you ready to make that call.

Question is best fit. Starting lineup needs a big man. Patton is the best big man.

Edit: I don't see a clear #2 in this draft yet. I do have Patton in the mix for that pick along with Dennis Smith Jr, Isaac, Tatum, Josh Jackson (who is growing on me). Not convinced by Ball either as I have stated in the past. Monk and Fox in the 5-10 range.

I really like Patton. I think he has got a lot of talent. I don't think he is franchise player but not sure the others are either (Dennis Smith Jr?).

 Who, have you watched UCLA play this year?

 Ball is such an excellent player IMO. Would elevate our team from day 1. Can't say that about many players.

Yes. He is a brilliant college player. Best player in college. Better than Fultz.

Not sure he will be as good in the NBA. My main concern is how often (rarely) Ball drives in the halfcourt and gets into the lane / to the basket. I am not convinced you can be a top level PG in today's league without that characteristic to your game.

I like Ball but I like him in the 5-10 range. Not sold him in the top 5 yet.

[Who]

Patton

 Patton with the Nets pick would take some serious sack. You sure you ready to make that call.

Question is best fit. Starting lineup needs a big man. Patton is the best big man.

Edit: I don't see a clear #2 in this draft yet. I do have Patton in the mix for that pick along with Dennis Smith Jr, Isaac, Tatum, Josh Jackson (who is growing on me). Not convinced by Ball either as I have stated in the past. Monk and Fox in the 5-10 range.

I really like Patton. I think he has got a lot of talent. I don't think he is franchise player but not sure the others are either (Dennis Smith Jr?).

I think Horford is best playing the 5. With that in mind, Isaac might be the best fit player to play the 4 alongside him.

I agree and I would prefer a PF also.

Isaac might become one but he may also end up at SF instead. Not sure where he will be best and how he changes (his body develops, his comfort with physicality) over the next few years. Is he a full time PF or is he a SF who can play some minutes at PF? Hard to tell at this point.

I didn't see a clear cut high end PF in this draft so I went with a center instead - Patton.

[KG Living Legend]

Patton

 Patton with the Nets pick would take some serious sack. You sure you ready to make that call.

Question is best fit. Starting lineup needs a big man. Patton is the best big man.

Edit: I don't see a clear #2 in this draft yet. I do have Patton in the mix for that pick along with Dennis Smith Jr, Isaac, Tatum, Josh Jackson (who is growing on me). Not convinced by Ball either as I have stated in the past. Monk and Fox in the 5-10 range.

I really like Patton. I think he has got a lot of talent. I don't think he is franchise player but not sure the others are either (Dennis Smith Jr?).

 Who, have you watched UCLA play this year?

 Ball is such an excellent player IMO. Would elevate our team from day 1. Can't say that about many players.

Yes. He is a brilliant college player. Best player in college. Better than Fultz.

Not sure he will be as good in the NBA. My main concern is how often (rarely) Ball drives in the halfcourt and gets into the lane / to the basket. I am not convinced you can be a top level PG in today's league without that characteristic to your game.

 Your concerns are valid. TP. Actually he's extremely efficient when he does drive it's just not often enough.

 I believe Ball is going #2 this year. Check out the 1994 Draft. I bet the bucks wish they had taken there current coach.

 #1 Big Dog Glen Robinson
 #2 Jason Kidd
 #3 Grant Hill


 Big dog was awesome in college, but should have gone with the Basketball genius in Kidd.

 IMO Kidd was better because of his energy level and endurance were incredible.

 I have seen Ball very tired multiple times.
 

[clevelandceltic]

Patton

 Patton with the Nets pick would take some serious sack. You sure you ready to make that call.

Question is best fit. Starting lineup needs a big man. Patton is the best big man.

Edit: I don't see a clear #2 in this draft yet. I do have Patton in the mix for that pick along with Dennis Smith Jr, Isaac, Tatum, Josh Jackson (who is growing on me). Not convinced by Ball either as I have stated in the past. Monk and Fox in the 5-10 range.

I really like Patton. I think he has got a lot of talent. I don't think he is franchise player but not sure the others are either (Dennis Smith Jr?).

 Who, have you watched UCLA play this year?

 Ball is such an excellent player IMO. Would elevate our team from day 1. Can't say that about many players.

Yes. He is a brilliant college player. Best player in college. Better than Fultz.

Not sure he will be as good in the NBA. My main concern is how often (rarely) Ball drives in the halfcourt and gets into the lane / to the basket. I am not convinced you can be a top level PG in today's league without that characteristic to your game.

Im worried about his lack of a midrange game. He is either taking 3s or is off the ball cutting to the basket for layups. Fultz ability to score on all 3 levels make this not even close when comparing the 2

[Ilikesports17]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

Cant shoot threes or pass. Its also my understanding that he doesnt project as a good rebounder or defender and hes not particularly athletic.

[clevelandceltic]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

Cant shoot threes or pass. Its also my understanding that he doesnt project as a good rebounder or defender and hes not particularly athletic.

I wouldnt classify him as a playmaker but he can pass. He is more scorer than anything. iM not sure about his abilty to not hit them. I wouldnt look at any shooting numbers this year and make definitive statements. He will be an above average rebounder and defender.

Im not saying he is Pierce but would you not take Pierce today based on some of these same qualities?

[Ilikesports17]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

Cant shoot threes or pass. Its also my understanding that he doesnt project as a good rebounder or defender and hes not particularly athletic.

I wouldnt classify him as a playmaker but he can pass. He is more scorer than anything. iM not sure about his abilty to not hit them. I wouldnt look at any shooting numbers this year and make definitive statements. He will be an above average rebounder and defender.

Im not saying he is Pierce but would you not take Pierce today based on some of these same qualities?

I stand by saying he is 1-dimensional. He scores from inside the 3 point line. I like him a lot.

However, if you arent a good passer, you cant shoot threes, and you dont project good defender, I dont think you fit too well.

[clevelandceltic]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

Cant shoot threes or pass. Its also my understanding that he doesnt project as a good rebounder or defender and hes not particularly athletic.

I wouldnt classify him as a playmaker but he can pass. He is more scorer than anything. iM not sure about his abilty to not hit them. I wouldnt look at any shooting numbers this year and make definitive statements. He will be an above average rebounder and defender.

Im not saying he is Pierce but would you not take Pierce today based on some of these same qualities?

I stand by saying he is 1-dimensional. He scores from inside the 3 point line. I like him a lot.

However, if you arent a good passer, you cant shoot threes, and you dont project good defender, I dont think you fit too well.

So you wouldnt take DeRozen on this team? He doesnt take many 3 at all. Is just an average passer and defender.

And im not sure what games entail your scouting report of him but if you are just looking at Duke games your missing a great deal of the picture.

[Tr1boy]

Ball lack of driving in to the basket in half court also worries me.  He is like living out on the perimeter or wants to finish off alleys... Its weird

Ball would fit better on a team like the 76ers bc of Embiid

Fultz struggled today vs Arizona. He was defended well... We need to focus on these high school stars ability to excel against big name schools vs pounding on weaker competition. One thing I dont like about Fultz sometimes is how he falls in love with the jump shot/perimeter .. He should drive in more or grab the rebound and jump start the fastbreak. But he doesnt ..could be a bit more aggressive

And this is why Im a huge fan of Jackson.. what an intense prospect. What a game vs Kentucky. He carried Kansas to the win. Like Bilas said, he came to play tonight... Scouts everywhere and it didnt phase him

I also like the intensity Isaac plays with... Nice unblockable looking jump shot. A little worried that he is hesistant to drive in and make it all the way to the basket.

At the moment Jackson would be my target

[Ilikesports17]

Ball and Jackson seem to be the 2nd and 3rd best prospects to me, but the question here is fit.

That also rules out Fox, Monk, and Smith Jr. Tatum is too one-dimensional.

Isaac fits best.

I think Jackson and Ball are the two guys Id want to pick. If I had to make that call today. Im going Ball, if Jackson can prove his recent 3 point shooting is for real, I think I might go Jackson.

Wait why is Tatum one dimensional?

Cant shoot threes or pass. Its also my understanding that he doesnt project as a good rebounder or defender and hes not particularly athletic.

I wouldnt classify him as a playmaker but he can pass. He is more scorer than anything. iM not sure about his abilty to not hit them. I wouldnt look at any shooting numbers this year and make definitive statements. He will be an above average rebounder and defender.

Im not saying he is Pierce but would you not take Pierce today based on some of these same qualities?

I stand by saying he is 1-dimensional. He scores from inside the 3 point line. I like him a lot.

However, if you arent a good passer, you cant shoot threes, and you dont project good defender, I dont think you fit too well.

So you wouldnt take DeRozen on this team? He doesnt take many 3 at all. Is just an average passer and defender.

And im not sure what games entail your scouting report of him but if you are just looking at Duke games your missing a great deal of the picture.

Look, I answered the question. the question of best fit. I think Tatums shortcomings as a 3 point shooter and a passer make him a poor fit compared to Isaac who is a better rebounder and shooter.

Isaac also sucks at passing, but thats OK because he can shoot and helps address rebounding and size issues.

Id also posit that Derozan is 1-dimensional and wouldnt be a great fit here. Would I take him? would he help us? absolutely, but would he fit with what we want to do better than a 6'11 player who can rebound, block shots and hit 3s? nope.

[clevelandceltic]

Ball lack of driving in to the basket in half court also worries me.  He is like living out on the perimeter or wants to finish off alleys... Its weird

Ball would fit better on a team like the 76ers bc of Embiid

Fultz struggled today vs Arizona. He was defended well... We need to focus on these high school stars ability to excel against big name schools vs pounding on weaker competition. One thing I dont like about Fultz sometimes is how he falls in love with the jump shot/perimeter .. He should drive in more or grab the rebound and jump start the fastbreak. But he doesnt ..could be a bit more aggressive

And this is why Im a huge fan of Jackson.. what an intense prospect. What a game vs Kentucky. He carried Kansas to the win. Like Bilas said, he came to play tonight... Scouts everywhere and it didnt phase him

I also like the intensity Isaac plays with... Nice unblockable looking jump shot. A little worried that he is hesistant to drive in and make it all the way to the basket.

At the moment Jackson would be my target

i guess the question is did you learn anything new about his game that you didnt know before? I think you can see that in any game.