Do you consider Rozier - starting material?

[Tr1boy]

Yes or no?

Im coming to the realization Smart is at best a role/bench player

Just a poor/streaky shooter and does not have the ability to turn the corner and finish around the rim.  Is strong otherwise at doing the little things, playing D...

Rozier on the other hand has a nice looking jump shot. Able to dribble stop and pop.  Can finish around the rim if there is space. Good in transition. Plays solid D

[Surferdad]

If Smart can develop a more consistent jumper during the off-season, I think the calculus changes.  I know, I know, we've been waiting for 3 years for it to happen.  Thing is, he can do things that Rozier cannot do and likely will never be able to do.

[Tr1boy]

If Smart can develop a more consistent jumper during the off-season, I think the calculus changes.  I know, I know, we've been waiting for 3 years for it to happen.  Thing is, he can do things that Rozier cannot do and likely will never be able to do.

How many years can you wait? Until he is near retirement

Just something about his stroke is off.. it could be better to revamp it altogether

[TrueFan]

If Smart can develop a more consistent jumper during the off-season, I think the calculus changes.  I know, I know, we've been waiting for 3 years for it to happen.  Thing is, he can do things that Rozier cannot do and likely will never be able to do.

That goes both ways.

Roz can drive and score better at the rim. He's a better three point shooter. He shoots off the dribble better. Higher offensive ceiling. Better athlete. Quicker and better cross over.

Smart is a better passer. He has more poise. Better at setting up the offense. Tighter with his handle. Better post up player.

All those things listed above are strengths the other is lacking.

[hodgy03038]

Smart's shooting percentage is not an accurate measure of his value. He does EVERYTHING else well. Many of his missed shots are end of the shot clock heaves because nobody else took the shot or when he's battling bigs in the paint and throwing up contested physical rebound shots. When it is his intent to shoot and he takes a jumper I have seen many times he makes a big shot and he's not afraid to do so. I do like Rozier and his speed is incredible. When he plays with speed and can keep it under control he is a real plus. I wouldn't sacrifice Smart's play for Rozier but I do see Rozier as deserving a few more minutes at times and maybe it's when teams are picking on Thomas is when Rozier should come in.

[LilRip]

Rozier can be a starter but he'll never be much more than a role player.

[CelticGuardian]

Rozier is not ready for that role. I liked that he was more aggressive this game, but I don't really have the highest hopes for him though.

[indeedproceed]

I think Rozier could be a starter tomorrow. He'd be a bad starter, but he could do it.

I think that down the line, Rozier could be decent starter.

[Surferdad]

If Smart can develop a more consistent jumper during the off-season, I think the calculus changes.  I know, I know, we've been waiting for 3 years for it to happen.  Thing is, he can do things that Rozier cannot do and likely will never be able to do.

That goes both ways.

Roz can drive and score better at the rim. He's a better three point shooter. He shoots off the dribble better. Higher offensive ceiling. Better athlete. Quicker and better cross over.

Smart is a better passer. He has more poise. Better at setting up the offense. Tighter with his handle. Better post up player.

All those things listed above are strengths the other is lacking.

No, doesn't really go both ways.  I would not trade Smart's defensive prowess, passing, poise, handle and post-up game for Rozier's 3-pt shooting, crossover and speed.  But that's just me.

[Moranis]

No

[Chris22]

Smart's shooting percentage is not an accurate measure of his value. He does EVERYTHING else well. Many of his missed shots are end of the shot clock heaves because nobody else took the shot or when he's battling bigs in the paint and throwing up contested physical rebound shots. When it is his intent to shoot and he takes a jumper I have seen many times he makes a big shot and he's not afraid to do so. I do like Rozier and his speed is incredible. When he plays with speed and can keep it under control he is a real plus. I wouldn't sacrifice Smart's play for Rozier but I do see Rozier as deserving a few more minutes at times and maybe it's when teams are picking on Thomas is when Rozier should come in.

Smart is one our best players, and he does seem to get stuck with the ball a lot when the shot clock is winding down.

[TrueFan]

If Smart can develop a more consistent jumper during the off-season, I think the calculus changes.  I know, I know, we've been waiting for 3 years for it to happen.  Thing is, he can do things that Rozier cannot do and likely will never be able to do.

That goes both ways.

Roz can drive and score better at the rim. He's a better three point shooter. He shoots off the dribble better. Higher offensive ceiling. Better athlete. Quicker and better cross over.

Smart is a better passer. He has more poise. Better at setting up the offense. Tighter with his handle. Better post up player.

All those things listed above are strengths the other is lacking.

No, doesn't really go both ways.  I would not trade Smart's defensive prowess, passing, poise, handle and post-up game for Rozier's 3-pt shooting, crossover and speed.  But that's just me.

It certainly does. Smart will never have Roz's speed or cross over or his shot off the dribble or ability to score at the rim.

They both do things at a higher level then the other.

[Who]

Yes (in the future I mean, not today) -- I consider Rozier starting PG material. I think he can be a top 15 PG in 2-3 years time. I would liken Rozier to someone like Reggie Jackson. Not a pure PG by any means. Someone that has to learn and develop some PG instincts (just to an adequate level) to allow his scoring talents to blossom. And someone (Rozier, I mean) who needs more time to develop on the defensive side of the floor because he is a train wreck right now but you can see flashes of defensive talent with his defense on the ball.

As for Smart -- I rate him as a top 15 SG (or close to it) in the league right now. If he can get some consistency on that 3 point shot at even a 33% clip, he is comfortably in that top 15.

[Geo123]

I consider Smart or Rozier plus picks as the basis to acquire a star. 

[droopdog7]

No.  He'll need to carve out a careers as a back up.  That's not a bad thing; just needs to develop his game.