Lonzo Ball Thread (Merged)

[Denis998]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

[clevelandceltic]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

He is 4th on my board for alot of the reasons others have mentioned here.



 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

[clevelandceltic]

Not sure why my other post didnt seem to work but Ball is 4th on my list for alot of the reasons people mentioned earlier.

[KG Living Legend]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

[clevelandceltic]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

He cant 3's based on what? Tatum and Turner are not alike at all.

[clevelandceltic]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You also say this as if Ball doesnt have issues in his game. Ball poor FT shooter. No mid range game at all so far. Doesnt beat people off the dribble. Creates very little separation from defender when he drives with the ball in his had. Doesnt finish in traffic well. Not sure he will be more than average defensively. Team has always fit around him, has yet to fit into a system.

Pluses. He has been able to win wherever he goes. His ugly shot goes in if he has space. Is good off the ball. Great vision and plays with pace.

Bottom line lets not think that everyone thinks he is a no brainer cus I sure and hell dont.

[footey]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You can defend Ball without making up stuff about Tatum, who has become a very good 3 point shooter.

[Dannys Chipotle Guy]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You can defend Ball without making up stuff about Tatum, who has become a very good 3 point shooter.

Tatum also has a prettier stroke imo.

my big board is
Fultz
Jackson
Tatum
Ball

I have not bee a big fan of Ball recently, but its more that I love Jackson and Tatum then I dont like Ball. I think ball is going to be a terrific player. i just think Jackson and Tatum will be better.

[The One]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2696577-lonzo-ball-is-life-uclas-superstar-freshman-is-ready-to-win-it-all?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

I don't know...he just might be weird enough to dominate in the Association.

[KG Living Legend]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You also say this as if Ball doesnt have issues in his game. Ball poor FT shooter. No mid range game at all so far. Doesnt beat people off the dribble. Creates very little separation from defender when he drives with the ball in his had. Doesnt finish in traffic well. Not sure he will be more than average defensively. Team has always fit around him, has yet to fit into a system.

Pluses. He has been able to win wherever he goes. His ugly shot goes in if he has space. Is good off the ball. Great vision and plays with pace.

Bottom line lets not think that everyone thinks he is a no brainer cus I sure and hell dont.

 If you can't see that Ball is a future NBA star, then I question your ability to evaluate talent.

 Tatum has improved his 3 point percentage to a solid rate. Ball is a basketball Genius. Not hard to see that if you watch a full game.

[chilidawg]

Hard to know if he'll ever dominate, but I love watching him play.  Brings joy and spontaneity back to the game.

[Tr1boy]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You also say this as if Ball doesnt have issues in his game. Ball poor FT shooter. No mid range game at all so far. Doesnt beat people off the dribble. Creates very little separation from defender when he drives with the ball in his had. Doesnt finish in traffic well. Not sure he will be more than average defensively. Team has always fit around him, has yet to fit into a system.

Pluses. He has been able to win wherever he goes. His ugly shot goes in if he has space. Is good off the ball. Great vision and plays with pace.

Bottom line lets not think that everyone thinks he is a no brainer cus I sure and hell dont.

 If you can't see that Ball is a future NBA star, then I question your ability to evaluate talent.

 Tatum has improved his 3 point percentage to a solid rate. Ball is a basketball Genius. Not hard to see that if you watch a full game.

I agree with you

but I don't think he fits with the current Celtics squad

[Tr1boy]

Hard to know if he'll ever dominate, but I love watching him play.  Brings joy and spontaneity back to the game.

He needs freedom and be with a team that is willing to run

The current Celtics team is mainly about halfcourt basketball

In addition Balls ability to drive and finish in the half court is questionable.... 

[aingeforthree]

Wow!  He's Coach Nick's favorite player in this draft!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7zZL6QmQA

 Funniest thing I've ever seen. People that don't think he's not the best player in the draft.

 Now with Fultz having injury problems. Did you know this is Washingtons worse season in the 16 years they have had this head coach.

 With the #1 overall pick? Something doesn't add up.

 You can count on one hand the players with higher BBIQ than ball going back to the 1980s.

 This kid truly is a basketball unicorn.

I'm nervous that he won't be able to create shots on offense. Everything he gets is off the pick and roll or on step backs. I'm worried that he won't come into the NBA and be able to create off the dribble.

I'm also worried that his shot mechanics will make it difficult for him to get off his shot when he dribbles to the right (since he brings the ball to his left then flings it across his body).

Fultz is on a terrible team, where UCLA is a great team. It makes it difficult to know how much of it is Ball making UCLA great and how much of it is Ball being on a great team.

I'm also not sure about Ball's defense.

I actually prefer both Jackson and Fultz to Ball because of those issues.

I agree, you can also add Tatum too that list of guys I'd take before him

 Your absolutely nuts for taking Tatum before Ball.

 The Tatum can't even shoot three's yet. He's super Evan Turner.

 Meanwhile Ball has range from 30 plus feet, and he shoots .430% from downtown.

You also say this as if Ball doesnt have issues in his game. Ball poor FT shooter. No mid range game at all so far. Doesnt beat people off the dribble. Creates very little separation from defender when he drives with the ball in his had. Doesnt finish in traffic well. Not sure he will be more than average defensively. Team has always fit around him, has yet to fit into a system.

Pluses. He has been able to win wherever he goes. His ugly shot goes in if he has space. Is good off the ball. Great vision and plays with pace.

Bottom line lets not think that everyone thinks he is a no brainer cus I sure and hell dont.

 If you can't see that Ball is a future NBA star, then I question your ability to evaluate talent.

 Tatum has improved his 3 point percentage to a solid rate. Ball is a basketball Genius. Not hard to see that if you watch a full game.

And yet Tatum could be the far better pro. It's a crap shoot. Who knows. You know how it goes.

I'm just hoping we land the first pick, that way Ainge won't have to give up much after he signs Hayward and packages #1 plus Crowder for his all star.

[The One]

Lonzo's father seems to be a handful...

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18901427/lavar-ball-seeks-combined-1-billion-shoe-deal-three-sons