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Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« on: January 17, 2017, 01:43:26 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Let's say Ball is BPA when we pick.
 Bradley will command huge dollars.

 Ball is the most unselfish player you will find. He will get the ball to Isaiah all day long. He can space the court with deadly super deep three point shooting. He can guard the two with his length and athletism.

 Fultz in the backcourt would give us more firepower for sure, but  telling you Ball would blend in so nicely with our squad.

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 01:52:20 AM »

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saw the heading and guessed it was you. Fultz is better than Ball.

why start another thread on this?

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 02:11:43 AM »

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saw the heading and guessed it was you. Fultz is better than Ball.

why start another thread on this?


 Because Einstein what are the chances we get the #1 pick? Not good. A much better chance we get the #2 or #3 pick.

 Fultz is a pipe dream. It's not happening. You heard it here first. I'm preparing for Jackson, Ball, Taytum, Giles right now.

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 02:12:38 AM »

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 Apologies for the initial comment.

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 02:27:57 AM »

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Trader Danny will trade that pick and get veteran help.
Another youngling will not help this team...not Ball not Fultz not anyone because they are too young.
Yes you heard me..just like what the Cavs did with the Wiggins pick..it will be traded.

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 02:55:23 AM »

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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?
I think the biggest reason is that fultz is first in more mocks.

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Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 04:12:37 AM »

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I've been fairly vocal about my dislike of Ball on this team, so I don't want to seem like a broken record KGLL, but I'm not for it.

Looking at Ball's stats I think there are 2 fairly alarming numbers that jump out and they both involve the line. Despite nearly always having the ball in his hands Lonzo Ball is averaging only 3.1 Free throw attempts per game and is hitting them at about a 68% clip. While Fultz is only shooting 67% at the line, he's doing so at 6.4 FTA a game.

Free throw shooting is one of the best indicators for how well you'll shoot at the next level and Ball's shot concerns me, especially considering he's not supporting that shot by driving it to the rack. Sure Ball is shooting at a much higher percentage than Fultz at .530 vs. .484 and .430 vs .418. but in terms terms of attempts it's not even close.

Ball is surrounded by spacing and has the luxury of choosing when to attack to the tune of 9.6 shot attempts per game 5.6 of which are 3's. Fultz on the other hand is in constant attack mode putting up an incredible 16.6 shots per game with only 4.4 of which coming from 3.

For me It's Markelle Fultz by a mile and even though Ball could very well end up as a modern day Steve Nash or Jason Kidd, those teams historically get stopped in the playoffs.

You say Ball will find Isaiah the rock? The rock already finds Isaiah. We don't need a ball dominant playmaker next to IT4, we need someone like Avery Bradley or Klay Thompson, an off ball scorer who can lockdown their matchup.

If we have the opportunity to take the BPA Markelle Fultz we have to either trade the pick or pull the trigger and figure out who stays between him or IT later. Let some other team become the run and gun Suns I like the direction we're headed right now.

Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

Well, I don't really watch college hoops but I watched their DX strengths and weaknesses vids and I left thinking Fultz is a better prospect.
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Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

Ceiling. Fultz has none.

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2017, 05:24:00 AM »

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saw the heading and guessed it was you. Fultz is better than Ball.

why start another thread on this?


 Because Einstein what are the chances we get the #1 pick? Not good.
A much better chance we get the #2 or #3 pick.

 Fultz is a pipe dream. It's not happening. You heard it here first.




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Re: Thoughts on a Thomas and Ball backcourt
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2017, 05:35:52 AM »

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Meh. I'd rather have Smart or AB paired with IT.

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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

He seems like a sure thing .  Your getting at min. A starter one day , if not a star .  He looks very solid when I watch him. 

If he stays healthy , i don't see a bust.

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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

Just ability to make tough shots. Hand in the face.  But has to play like this because he chose to play for a bad team...maybe it was by design to show how good he is

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2017, 08:36:55 AM »

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I've seen ball ahead of fultz in some mocks.  He actually shoots higher percentages. Is there a reason fultz seems so much more popular with fans right now ?

He seems like a sure thing .  Your getting at min. A starter one day , if not a star .  He looks very solid when I watch him. 

If he stays healthy , i don't see a bust.

same here....but not talent at the level of Lebron, Towns or anything...  Maybe like a Lillard or Beal

still a fantastic talent