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Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2017, 03:06:27 PM »

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I love both players, but I really like the idea of going hard after Whiteside with the Nets pick.

Yup. You cant get whiteside unless the 2017 1st or brown is involved in a package

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2017, 03:07:58 PM »

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I hate Whiteside as a player, but I at least understand the intrigue with him. going after Goran Dragic doesnt make any sense at all.
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Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2017, 03:10:55 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.
Quote from: George W. Bush
Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples while judging ourselves by our best intentions.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2017, 03:19:23 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2017, 03:22:52 PM »

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I find most fans here unless ripping off teams or re creating a steal like grabbing KG (for what we gave up) or with the 1st round picks from the nets , are going to hate every trade idea.

Even the rondo trade. Imo that was a god send trade. And people were upset for months..

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2017, 03:32:55 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

Regular season games played...

14/15- 77

15/16 - 76

16/17 - Has played 35 out of 40 games

So there are 30 SF's better than Crowder. Laughable.

Dragic is a career 35% 3pt shooter

Tri again

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 03:35:13 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

Regular season games played...

14/15- 77

15/16 - 76

16/17 - Has played 35 out of 40 games

Tri again

How about in the playoffs smart guy?


Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 03:38:08 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

Regular season games played...

14/15- 77

15/16 - 76

16/17 - Has played 35 out of 40 games

Tri again

How about in the playoffs smart guy?

You try to pass nonsense as facts, but then struggle to counter when presented with facts.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 03:42:27 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

Regular season games played...

14/15- 77

15/16 - 76

16/17 - Has played 35 out of 40 games

Tri again

How about in the playoffs smart guy?

12-13 6 out of 6 gp
13-14 didn't make playoffs
14-15 4 out of 4 gp
15-16 1 out of 6 gp

So is this what you base that on? Really? Ingenious.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2017, 03:44:43 PM »

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http://allucanheat.com/2017/01/15/miami-heat-boston-celtics-hassan-whiteside-nba-trade-idea/
I think that is a reasonable enough trade. 

Whiteside

for

Amir, Zeller, BOS 17 1st, BOS 18 1st, MEM 1st, MIA 20 2nd
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2017, 03:45:09 PM »

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I find most fans here unless ripping off teams or re creating a steal like grabbing KG (for what we gave up) or with the 1st round picks from the nets , are going to hate every trade idea.

Even the rondo trade. Imo that was a god send trade. And people were upset for months..
You're proposing a win now trade but it results in Brown as a starter which he is absolutely not ready to be.  The trade completely goes against the 3pt shooting and ball movement offense that Stevens runs.  Teams would pack the paint to stop Isaiah's drives and clamp down on Whiteside while gladly letting Smart and Brown chuck 3s.  We definitely need to improve to be a contender but your proposal is several steps in the wrong direction.   
 
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Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2017, 03:49:51 PM »

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I'd love Whiteside. Had concerns over his work ethic but he seems to be legit even with his new money. I'd move a Nets 2018, future Cs first Rozier and Amir for him.

IT/Smart
Bradley/Green
Crowder/Brown
Horford/Jerebko
Whiteside/KO

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2017, 03:52:01 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
yeah same with good picks like the Nets 17 pick bradley and Crowder.

AB is a FA soon. He is injured on a yearly basis
Crowder is an overachieving backup sf making 6 million a year

2017 draft pick might be a good player in 2 years

Whiteside and dragic are producing now. are locked up for the long term. In their primes

Hassan leads the league in rebounding. One of the top shot blockers. Prob top in putbacks if such stats exist

Dragic is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, assist/turnover ratio, FT percentage

First off, he signed a 5/35 contract, that's $7 million a year

But more alarmingly, are you seriously holding Crowder's salary against him? He's on one of the best contract in the NBA because he's hugely underpaid, and that's a good thing for us.  By that logic, we shouldn't rate IT highly because, between this year and next year, he's making even less than Crowder (6.6+6.3 vs 6.3+6.8 )

Not even gonna touch the Dragic stuff, although I do wonder why you list his A/TO ratio as a strength when it's lower than 6 of our current rotation players (IT, Horford, Smart, Amir, Rozier, and Zeller)
« Last Edit: January 16, 2017, 04:15:22 PM by BitterJim »
I'm bitter.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2017, 04:13:21 PM »

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http://allucanheat.com/2017/01/15/miami-heat-boston-celtics-hassan-whiteside-nba-trade-idea/
I think that is a reasonable enough trade. 

Whiteside

for

Amir, Zeller, BOS 17 1st, BOS 18 1st, MEM 1st, MIA 20 2nd

you don't think that's a little to much? that's the 2017 nets pick on top of all off that?