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Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 02:04:00 PM »

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Dragic is a starter-quality PG who chafed having to share / defer minutes with Bledsoe and Thomas when the three were at Phoenix.  He made it very clear he wasn't happy there.  There are some indications he and Thomas have a bit of edginess to their relationship stemming from that situation.

He's not likely to be thrilled to be put on the bench.

It's very debatable whether replacing Amir with Whiteside helps you out as much as replacing Crowder & AB with Brown & Smart hurts you, at least in the near term.   It might work better in the long run, but it's pretty risky gamble at your 2 & 3 for what you are getting at the 5.

The outside shooting would take a huge nose-dive.  Amir, Jae & Avery are collectively shooting lights-out from beyond the arc this year.   Whiteside, Brown and Smart ... are not.

Even if the whole nets out as 'better', I just don't see the result as being at 'another level'.  It looks more different than better.

I'll pass, thanks.

Good analysis with some kinks no doubt

But if it all irons out, it could do some serious damage in the playoffs. Its just more balanced

The current lineup on the other hand screams out another 1st round exit. Crowder vs Lebron. Crowder vs george. 

Whiteside makes them jump shooters. Dragic adds offensive firepower in case IT4 goes on a coldspell


Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2017, 02:08:29 PM »

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Awful trade.


Dragic is a ball dominant player who is a negative on defense and couldn't co-exist with Thomas in Phoenix.. Whiteside is stat padder who struggles badly defensively because of his refusal to contest shooters. He's more concerned about his numbers than he is about playing winning basketball.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2017, 02:11:26 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »

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No interest in Dragic. What I would do is

Whiteside

For

2018 Nets pick, Yabusele or Zizic, Zeller and Amir

Miami gets a Nets pick and cap relief and Boston gets the rebounding, interior defensive presence they have been sorely lacking.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2017, 02:14:58 PM »

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Trade idea

To Heat: Crowder, AB, Young, Rozier,  Zeller, Amir, 2017 1st
To Celts: Dragic, Whiteside, McGruder, Richardson, Babbitt, 2017 heat 2nd round pick

Celts lineup

Whiteside
Horford
Brown
Smart
IT4

KO
Jerebko
Green
Dragic
Jackson

Yay or nay? Chances vs cavs/warriors/spurs?

LOL NO!

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2017, 02:30:50 PM »

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 No way!!

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2017, 02:31:56 PM »

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Trade idea

To Heat: Crowder, AB, Young, Rozier,  Zeller, Amir, 2017 1st
To Celts: Dragic, Whiteside, McGruder, Richardson, Babbitt, 2017 heat 2nd round pick

Celts lineup

Whiteside
Horford
Brown
Smart
IT4

KO
Jerebko
Green
Dragic
Jackson

Yay or nay? Chances vs cavs/warriors/spurs?

Brown is no where near ready to be a starting SF on a good team.  We don't need Dragic and there's no way I trade AB, JC, Rozier and our Brooklyn pick together.   

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2017, 02:33:07 PM »

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No interest in Dragic. What I would do is

Whiteside

For

2018 Nets pick, Yabusele or Zizic, Zeller and Amir

Miami gets a Nets pick and cap relief and Boston gets the rebounding, interior defensive presence they have been sorely lacking.

Miami wouldn't even take your call for that offer.   

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2017, 02:43:12 PM »

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Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?

Yes. A lower one.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2017, 02:47:27 PM »

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I would not touch either player for that price

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2017, 02:50:09 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams



Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2017, 02:57:50 PM »

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Riley would never help us, so give it up.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2017, 02:58:15 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams

Yeah but you have to be realistic as to what Ainge would give up.

Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2017, 02:58:36 PM »

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Triboy, you often have interesting trade ideas but this is just awful from Celtic perspective. What happened?

Lol. You have to be realistic on what it would take to pry good players off teams
your trade wasn't realistic from Boston's perspective though.  Bradley, Crowder, and the BKN 2017 1st are far more valuable than Whiteside and Dragic. 
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Re: Would obtaining Whiteside and Dragic take the Celts to another level?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2017, 03:00:28 PM »

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I love both players, but I really like the idea of going hard after Whiteside with the Nets pick.