Carmelo to Boston (a good fit?)

[Moranis]

Hypothetical trade:

Amir Johnson, Tyler Zeller, Terry Rozier, Jordan Mickey, 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 MEM 1st

for

Carmelo Anthony, filler


(a) Do you say yes to this trade if you're Boston?  Do you say yes if you're New York?

(b) Does this trade actually make Boston significantly better?

I'd rather do Boston's 2019 instead of Memphis, but I'd probably be ok with the Memphis one if required.  And yes, that trade makes Boston better.

[ThePaintedArea]

What would Red do?

Carmelo is not a Celtic.

[Fireworks_Boom!]

The more I think about Carmelo, the more I might target him.

While it would be painful to lose Avery Bradley, I would include him in the package. This would secure Smart's position in statrting lineup and relegate the defensive specialist/ball handler off the bench role to Rozier, a role he would play perfectly.

And IMO, this might be enough to attract NYK.

Avery Bradley/Amir Johnson/Jonas Jerebko/Celtics 2018 1st round pick

for

Carmelo Anthony

NYK clear their books and land Avery to pair up with Porzingis. They make room for 2 max FA to pair up with Bradley/Porzingis/Noah pairing. That is an attractive path forward for them.

[Phantom255x]

You guys realize Melo has his No-Trade Clause... right?

Doesn't matter if Melo insists on staying.

[Fireworks_Boom!]

His no trade clause has been mentioned many times. Obviously all of the above scenarios would have to be approved by him so it is hypothetical talk.

But you have to imagine he sees a path to contending for a title in Boston moreso than in NY, especially if he is added to this roster without us losing too many assets in the process. He is really exactly what we need.

We need a rebounder in the paint too. But a deal for Melo would not preclude us from making a roster improvement in this areas as well (Bogut).

These are 2 moves which don't sacrifice too much in the return package and would give us a path to contention sooner. The painful assets (Brown, Smart, Crowder, Brooklyn picks).

[Phantom255x]

His no trade clause has been mentioned many times. Obviously all of the above scenarios would have to be approved by him so it is hypothetical talk.

But you have to imagine he sees a path to contending for a title in Boston moreso than in NY, especially if he is added to this roster without us losing too many assets in the process. He is really exactly what we need.

We need a rebounder in the paint too. But a deal for Melo would not preclude us from making a roster improvement in this areas as well (Bogut).

These are 2 moves which don't sacrifice too much in the return package and would give us a path to contention sooner. The painful assets (Brown, Smart, Crowder, Brooklyn picks).

Melo could possibly leave, maybe not at the deadline but sometime soon if the Knicks keep falling.

I just don't want him here honestly. He doesn't fit with the age timeline, and is not the "alpha".

Knicks won't sell him for cheap either.

[Moranis]

His no trade clause has been mentioned many times. Obviously all of the above scenarios would have to be approved by him so it is hypothetical talk.

But you have to imagine he sees a path to contending for a title in Boston moreso than in NY, especially if he is added to this roster without us losing too many assets in the process. He is really exactly what we need.

We need a rebounder in the paint too. But a deal for Melo would not preclude us from making a roster improvement in this areas as well (Bogut).

These are 2 moves which don't sacrifice too much in the return package and would give us a path to contention sooner. The painful assets (Brown, Smart, Crowder, Brooklyn picks).

Melo could possibly leave, maybe not at the deadline but sometime soon if the Knicks keep falling.

I just don't want him here honestly. He doesn't fit with the age timeline, and is not the "alpha".

Knicks won't sell him for cheap either.

He fits Horford's age timeline and he fits the contract timeline of Thomas, Bradley, etc.  If Boston is going to try and win around Horford then trading for Anthony makes a lot of sense as he fills a real need on the team i.e. another competent #1 scoring option and as a plus he is a wing.  He is still a very effective scorer.  And for all his flaws, Anthony is a solid rebounder and respectable enough passer.  He can also defend when he needs to especially when he doesn't take the full blunt of the offensive burden.  Anthony won't put Boston in Cleveland's class, but he will get Boston a lot closer and past Toronto.  If Boston makes some minor moves it could be a threat to Cleveland with Anthony (like adding a defensive/rebounding big man). 

If the trade is really only something like Crowder, Johnson, Rozier, and a couple of projected late 1st's (i.e. Boston's 2018 and 2019 1st), then Boston should absolutely make the move.

[Phantom255x]

His no trade clause has been mentioned many times. Obviously all of the above scenarios would have to be approved by him so it is hypothetical talk.

But you have to imagine he sees a path to contending for a title in Boston moreso than in NY, especially if he is added to this roster without us losing too many assets in the process. He is really exactly what we need.

We need a rebounder in the paint too. But a deal for Melo would not preclude us from making a roster improvement in this areas as well (Bogut).

These are 2 moves which don't sacrifice too much in the return package and would give us a path to contention sooner. The painful assets (Brown, Smart, Crowder, Brooklyn picks).

Melo could possibly leave, maybe not at the deadline but sometime soon if the Knicks keep falling.

I just don't want him here honestly. He doesn't fit with the age timeline, and is not the "alpha".

Knicks won't sell him for cheap either.

He fits Horford's age timeline and he fits the contract timeline of Thomas, Bradley, etc.  If Boston is going to try and win around Horford then trading for Anthony makes a lot of sense as he fills a real need on the team i.e. another competent #1 scoring option and as a plus he is a wing.  He is still a very effective scorer.  And for all his flaws, Anthony is a solid rebounder and respectable enough passer.  He can also defend when he needs to especially when he doesn't take the full blunt of the offensive burden.  Anthony won't put Boston in Cleveland's class, but he will get Boston a lot closer and past Toronto.  If Boston makes some minor moves it could be a threat to Cleveland with Anthony (like adding a defensive/rebounding big man). 

If the trade is really only something like Crowder, Johnson, Rozier, and a couple of projected late 1st's (i.e. Boston's 2018 and 2019 1st), then Boston should absolutely make the move.

It will definitely cost you a Brooklyn Pick, but if it's the 2018 one and no other trade materializes, I still wouldn't mind making this move.

Still keep the 2017 Nets Pick, and Brown can learn from Anthony as well.

[Moranis]

His no trade clause has been mentioned many times. Obviously all of the above scenarios would have to be approved by him so it is hypothetical talk.

But you have to imagine he sees a path to contending for a title in Boston moreso than in NY, especially if he is added to this roster without us losing too many assets in the process. He is really exactly what we need.

We need a rebounder in the paint too. But a deal for Melo would not preclude us from making a roster improvement in this areas as well (Bogut).

These are 2 moves which don't sacrifice too much in the return package and would give us a path to contention sooner. The painful assets (Brown, Smart, Crowder, Brooklyn picks).

Melo could possibly leave, maybe not at the deadline but sometime soon if the Knicks keep falling.

I just don't want him here honestly. He doesn't fit with the age timeline, and is not the "alpha".

Knicks won't sell him for cheap either.

He fits Horford's age timeline and he fits the contract timeline of Thomas, Bradley, etc.  If Boston is going to try and win around Horford then trading for Anthony makes a lot of sense as he fills a real need on the team i.e. another competent #1 scoring option and as a plus he is a wing.  He is still a very effective scorer.  And for all his flaws, Anthony is a solid rebounder and respectable enough passer.  He can also defend when he needs to especially when he doesn't take the full blunt of the offensive burden.  Anthony won't put Boston in Cleveland's class, but he will get Boston a lot closer and past Toronto.  If Boston makes some minor moves it could be a threat to Cleveland with Anthony (like adding a defensive/rebounding big man). 

If the trade is really only something like Crowder, Johnson, Rozier, and a couple of projected late 1st's (i.e. Boston's 2018 and 2019 1st), then Boston should absolutely make the move.

It will definitely cost you a Brooklyn Pick, but if it's the 2018 one and no other trade materializes, I still wouldn't mind making this move.

Still keep the 2017 Nets Pick, and Brown can learn from Anthony as well.

I'm not so sure it will cost a Brooklyn pick as the market for Anthony won't be that large because there aren't many teams he would waive his no trade clause for.  I think Boston has a shot at being one of those teams because Boston is a very short flight from NY (so his family wouldn't have to move) and because Boston is a winning team.  The only other teams that really make sense for Anthony are LAC and Cleveland and to a lesser extent Houston or San Antonio.  I don't think he goes to Houston or San Antonio though as they are too far from NY and in the case of San An have a better SF on the roster (I know Cleveland does as well, but he is friends with Lebron so he likely would be ok with being a PF).  LAC is a far flight, but LA is a mega city like NY and Anthony is friends with Paul. 

[Geo123]

This is silly.  As has been said many times here, he has a no trade plus he doesn't want to leave NY.  On top of that, if by some wild stretch he agrees to a trade he has a 15% trade kicker which would mean you're paying him $30 Million per year over the next 2 years (his 25 Million salary plus the trade kicker) for $60 million total.  Now who in their right mind wants to do that?  I guess some people on this board.   

[bmac934]

BOS: Zeller Bradley Jerebko Rozier BKN 2017 pick MEM 2019 pick
NYK: Melo Jennings NYK 2017 pick

[bmac934]

Hypothetical trade:

Amir Johnson, Tyler Zeller, Terry Rozier, Jordan Mickey, 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 MEM 1st

for

Carmelo Anthony, filler


(a) Do you say yes to this trade if you're Boston?  Do you say yes if you're New York?

(b) Does this trade actually make Boston significantly better?

I'd rather do Boston's 2019 instead of Memphis, but I'd probably be ok with the Memphis one if required.  And yes, that trade makes Boston better.

New York laughs and hangs up.  Then New York is so disrespected that they don't even pick up our call in the future.

Also to whoever said Melo would make a nice bench piece.......be real.

Also to everyone saying Melo isnt going anywhere this forum is silly.  CELTICSBLOG FORUM IS SILLY, ITS ALL IMAGINARY.  Its not ridiculous to Melo to waive his no trade clause & we are all aware that he most likely will not waive it.

[Ogaju]

Eh. It's not terrible. But not worth the 2017 pick.

Probably more like Crowder or Bradley, 2018 Nets Pick, rights to Yabusele, filler.

Or

IT4 for Melo and Hernangomez.

The trade really centers around incentives for Boston to take the melo contract.

You would really trade IT4 for Carmelo?

[Moranis]

Hypothetical trade:

Amir Johnson, Tyler Zeller, Terry Rozier, Jordan Mickey, 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 MEM 1st

for

Carmelo Anthony, filler


(a) Do you say yes to this trade if you're Boston?  Do you say yes if you're New York?

(b) Does this trade actually make Boston significantly better?

I'd rather do Boston's 2019 instead of Memphis, but I'd probably be ok with the Memphis one if required.  And yes, that trade makes Boston better.

New York laughs and hangs up.  Then New York is so disrespected that they don't even pick up our call in the future.

Also to whoever said Melo would make a nice bench piece.......be real.

Also to everyone saying Melo isnt going anywhere this forum is silly.  CELTICSBLOG FORUM IS SILLY, ITS ALL IMAGINARY.  Its not ridiculous to Melo to waive his no trade clause & we are all aware that he most likely will not waive it.

2 firsts and a recent 1st plus some salary filler isn't a terrible trade for NY. 

[Ilikesports17]

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/01/13/report-carmelo-anthony-unwilling-to-waive-no-trade-clause/

Does Carmelo Anthony – who holds a no-trade clause – want to stick around?

Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders:

A source close to Anthony says he’s unwilling to green-light a trade out of New York, even with how bad it’s turned.

This was before the Knicks lost to the 76ers and before Anthony got booed by New York fans, but I doubt a single game or single fan reaction will swing him. This is a big-picture decision.