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Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2017, 07:01:12 AM »

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6'8 power forward?  He better be able to play SF.  Because 6'8 is undersized for PF in today's NBA.  We don't need to be spending a top 5 pick on an undersized player.

You need to be looking at prototypical or freakish size/length with that high of a pick as Brooklyn's projects.

Draymond green is 6'7.  Lebron is 6'8 and plays the 4 some of the time.   Those teams seem to be doing okay.

And Tristant Thompson is 6'8

but these guys are exceptions and not the norm

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2017, 07:30:18 AM »

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He's super versatile.
He's more of an SF for me because of his average wingspan.
Reminds me of kawahi Leonard for some reason.
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Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2017, 08:38:51 AM »

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He's a 3, but I agree that he's a future Celtic. He's AWESOME

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2017, 08:50:32 AM »

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6'8 power forward?  He better be able to play SF.  Because 6'8 is undersized for PF in today's NBA.  We don't need to be spending a top 5 pick on an undersized player.

You need to be looking at prototypical or freakish size/length with that high of a pick as Brooklyn's projects.

Draymond green is 6'7.  Lebron is 6'8 and plays the 4 some of the time.   Those teams seem to be doing okay.

And Tristant Thompson is 6'8

but these guys are exceptions and not the norm
They all outweigh Jackson by at least 30lbs.  Josh Jackson has the size and build of Wiggins.   

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2017, 08:54:17 AM »

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Draft Jackson and sign Noel.

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2017, 09:09:14 AM »

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He's a 3, but I agree that he's a future Celtic. He's AWESOME

And what about Jaylen Brown?

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2017, 09:27:17 AM »

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He's a 3, but I agree that he's a future Celtic. He's AWESOME

And what about Jaylen Brown?
Long term, I think Jackson/Tatum and Brown could start as interchangable 3/4.

By the time the C's are ready for that, they will need to have found a great rebounding center. Horford, Jackson and Brown doesn't provide near enough rebounding, but man would they be a problem in every other facet.

In the Jackson/Brown pairing I would expect Brown to guard the 4. Brown is 220 as a 20 year old rookie, he could easily be 230-240 when his body fills out. That is plenty of heft to guard opposing 4's.

The NBA is moving towards every player having the ability to play on the perimeter, you don't really have to worry about bigger 4's destroying smaller 4's in the post because that is not the way the league is being played.

Once Jackson and Tatum fill out, both should be able to play the 3 and the 4. Height and girth at the 4 has become secondary to shooting and defensive versatility. It's not like Jackson or Brown would be counted upon to be the primary rim protector/rebounder at the 4.

People get waaaaaay too hung up on positional archetypes. The modern NBA is all about defensive versatility, and less about each position having a specific role.

The Celtics run a lot of their offense through their 4/5, their 2 is their best rebounder and every position on the court is a threat from 3. Why do people hold onto their preconceived notion of what each position is supposed to do rather than pay attention to how the game is currently being played.
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Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2017, 10:35:33 PM »

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Draft Jackson and sign Noel.

What a haul!!

Sign me up!

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2017, 10:42:35 PM »

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He's a 3, but I agree that he's a future Celtic. He's AWESOME

And what about Jaylen Brown?
Long term, I think Jackson/Tatum and Brown could start as interchangable 3/4.

By the time the C's are ready for that, they will need to have found a great rebounding center. Horford, Jackson and Brown doesn't provide near enough rebounding, but man would they be a problem in every other facet.

In the Jackson/Brown pairing I would expect Brown to guard the 4. Brown is 220 as a 20 year old rookie, he could easily be 230-240 when his body fills out. That is plenty of heft to guard opposing 4's.

The NBA is moving towards every player having the ability to play on the perimeter, you don't really have to worry about bigger 4's destroying smaller 4's in the post because that is not the way the league is being played.

Once Jackson and Tatum fill out, both should be able to play the 3 and the 4. Height and girth at the 4 has become secondary to shooting and defensive versatility. It's not like Jackson or Brown would be counted upon to be the primary rim protector/rebounder at the 4.

People get waaaaaay too hung up on positional archetypes. The modern NBA is all about defensive versatility, and less about each position having a specific role.

The Celtics run a lot of their offense through their 4/5, their 2 is their best rebounder and every position on the court is a threat from 3. Why do people hold onto their preconceived notion of what each position is supposed to do rather than pay attention to how the game is currently being played.

Good question. 

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2017, 12:18:31 AM »

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He's a 3, but I agree that he's a future Celtic. He's AWESOME

And what about Jaylen Brown?
Long term, I think Jackson/Tatum and Brown could start as interchangable 3/4.

By the time the C's are ready for that, they will need to have found a great rebounding center. Horford, Jackson and Brown doesn't provide near enough rebounding, but man would they be a problem in every other facet.

In the Jackson/Brown pairing I would expect Brown to guard the 4. Brown is 220 as a 20 year old rookie, he could easily be 230-240 when his body fills out. That is plenty of heft to guard opposing 4's.

The NBA is moving towards every player having the ability to play on the perimeter, you don't really have to worry about bigger 4's destroying smaller 4's in the post because that is not the way the league is being played.

Once Jackson and Tatum fill out, both should be able to play the 3 and the 4. Height and girth at the 4 has become secondary to shooting and defensive versatility. It's not like Jackson or Brown would be counted upon to be the primary rim protector/rebounder at the 4.

People get waaaaaay too hung up on positional archetypes. The modern NBA is all about defensive versatility, and less about each position having a specific role.

The Celtics run a lot of their offense through their 4/5, their 2 is their best rebounder and every position on the court is a threat from 3. Why do people hold onto their preconceived notion of what each position is supposed to do rather than pay attention to how the game is currently being played.



 Truly Outstanding Post Evantime. Bravo. TP. +1 and more.

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2017, 01:26:12 AM »

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Draft Jackson and sign Noel.

What a haul!!

Sign me up!

IT, Bradley, Crowder, Horford, and Noel as starters.
Rozier, Smart, Brown, and Jackson coming off the bench.

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2017, 06:10:17 AM »

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People get waaaaaay too hung up on positional archetypes. The modern NBA is all about defensive versatility, and less about each position having a specific role.


This. Everyone is getting excited with undersized SGs, but people forget how versatility is important in today's NBA game. You have guys like Lebron, Kawhi, Draymond, KD, Iggy and Giannis who can play almost, if not all the 5 positions in both side of the floor. If you have a elite versatile SFs, you take them over elite scoring PGs, unless they are taller than 6'5".
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Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2017, 08:05:01 AM »

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And I am not worried about his age... >:(


The kid can play.

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2017, 09:21:26 AM »

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He's super versatile.
He's more of an SF for me because of his average wingspan.
Reminds me of kawahi Leonard for some reason.

What is his wingspan? Is it under 7 feet?

Re: Found the Celtics future PF. Josh Jackson.
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2017, 09:25:03 AM »

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That's fine. if you put him on the Jared Sullinger diet.
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