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If given the choice who would you rather on your team?

Kawhi Leonard (5th year)
4 (40%)
Scottie Pippen (5th year)
6 (60%)

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Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« on: December 10, 2016, 06:49:46 AM »

Offline slightly biased bias fan

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I was thinking about this situation recently and wanted peoples opinions. Given both are very similar players who is superior?

To make things fair you are voting on both players 5th years in the NBA, so:

1991-1992 Scottie Pippen

GP 82 MPG 38.6 PPG 21.0 RPG 7.7 APG 7.0 SPG 1.9 BPG 1.1 FG% .506 3P% .200 FT% .760

2015-2016 Kawhi Leonard

GP 72 MPG 33.1 PPG 21.2 RPG 6.8 APG 2.6 SPG 1.8 BPG 1.0 FG% .506 3P% .443 FT% .874

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 07:52:02 AM »

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Pippen's numbers make it very close, but I'd go with Kawhi.  When you factor in that Pippen was playing 5 more minutes a game when the pace was faster, it gives him a boost in his numbers.  But then again, Pippen would be pretty nasty with the current handchecking and physicality rules.

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 08:05:37 AM »

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It's a different era, so it's hard to say. Kawhi's outside jumper is important in today's era, but I still think I go with Pippen. I think he's a better defender (both are great), and a better distributor.


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Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 08:08:23 AM »

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Pippen's numbers make it very close, but I'd go with Kawhi.  When you factor in that Pippen was playing 5 more minutes a game when the pace was faster, it gives him a boost in his numbers.  But then again, Pippen would be pretty nasty with the current handchecking and physicality rules.

He played 5mins more but he had Jordan next to him while Kawhi was the A dog for the Spurs

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 08:13:25 AM »

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It's a different era, so it's hard to say. Kawhi's outside jumper is important in today's era, but I still think I go with Pippen. I think he's a better defender (both are great), and a better distributor.
Pippen was like a point guard.  That aspect of his game was awesome.

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 08:28:19 AM »

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It's a different era, so it's hard to say. Kawhi's outside jumper is important in today's era, but I still think I go with Pippen. I think he's a better defender (both are great), and a better distributor.
Pippen was like a point guard.  That aspect of his game was awesome.

Yeah, they each crush each other in something (3pt% for KL and Ast for SP), but Pippen's game was a bit more dynamic. They each were incredible defensive players.

Passing/playmaking seems like something that carries well across eras, while Pippen's 3pt shooting would likely be improved today.

I give the slight edge to Pippen, but will gladly take Kawhi if he is offered to us  :D

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 08:29:23 AM »

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Pippen = team defense, ball-handling and passing advantage gives him the edge.

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 08:44:09 AM »

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Pippen. He averaged those numbers with Jordan scoring 30+ a night. Yeah Jordan made it possible for him to work with out double teams, but he also played in a league that actually played D every night, and had Hand checking, and actual shot blockers. And his D was tops. I'd love to see Pippen guard Lebron and see how that goes.

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2016, 08:44:26 AM »

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Kawhi has carried his team more than Scottie Pippen.

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2016, 09:03:57 AM »

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Kawhi has carried his team more than Scottie Pippen.

the 93-94 55win Jordanless Bulls team doesn"t count ?

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2016, 02:50:04 PM »

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I think the stats can be slightly misleading especially for Kawhi, as he plays in a ball movement system for Pop so he can never have the assist stats that Scottie put up and I'm sure his minutes also reflect Pops resting protocol.

It's amazingly close and really reflects how far Kawhi has come.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2016, 03:11:31 PM by slightly biased bias fan »

Re: Who you got, Kawhi or Scottie?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2016, 03:40:06 PM »

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Not going by stats I'd pick Kawhi hands down, he's more emotionally stable. He would never bench himself if he didn't get to take the last shot. I also think Kawhi plays fantastic defense in an era where it's much harder to play defense. There have been so many rules changes that favor the offense.