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Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2017, 12:59:53 PM »

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Every game I have watched him he looks lost on D.   He can score but he is a one way player folks.

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Likely a 3 as his lack of great foot speed limits his effectiveness off the dribble, and his size and shooting fits the 3 position ...
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Lacks strength for physical play at higher levels but should add strength in time

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jayson-tatum

He won't be ready from day one.  I got the same feeling watching Dunn last year and he has been scary in terms of not living up to hype.   I correspondingly hope we don't draft him.

A one way player based on what? He isnt a playmaker, yes like any player he misses defensive assignments but lets not pretend he doesnt rebound well, doesnt create more shots off the bounce for guys, plays the passing lanes well, and can block shots at a decent rate.

Which players are going to be ready day one? I can only count one Fultz. That's it. And who really cares about the hype. Jaylen had no hype and Ingram had a ton but look at what they both have produced so far.

The only guy that doesnt have very noticeable weaknesses is Fultz all the rest have sure fire question marks. Its a matter of if you want to recognize them or not.

I think Jackson more than Fultz will be ready from day one.

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2017, 01:21:19 PM »

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Every game I have watched him he looks lost on D.   He can score but he is a one way player folks.

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Likely a 3 as his lack of great foot speed limits his effectiveness off the dribble, and his size and shooting fits the 3 position ...
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Lacks strength for physical play at higher levels but should add strength in time

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jayson-tatum

He won't be ready from day one.  I got the same feeling watching Dunn last year and he has been scary in terms of not living up to hype.   I correspondingly hope we don't draft him.

A one way player based on what? He isnt a playmaker, yes like any player he misses defensive assignments but lets not pretend he doesnt rebound well, doesnt create more shots off the bounce for guys, plays the passing lanes well, and can block shots at a decent rate.

Which players are going to be ready day one? I can only count one Fultz. That's it. And who really cares about the hype. Jaylen had no hype and Ingram had a ton but look at what they both have produced so far.

The only guy that doesnt have very noticeable weaknesses is Fultz all the rest have sure fire question marks. Its a matter of if you want to recognize them or not.

I think Jackson more than Fultz will be ready from day one.


Ok I will give you Jackson

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2017, 01:22:40 PM »

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I like Tatum 4th over Isaac.

No way Id take him over Jackson and the consensus seems to be the Fultz and Ball are a level ahead of him.
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Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2017, 01:31:19 PM »

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It is incredible that Tatum is considered a worst case scenario pick for us. I like him a lot better than Jaylen Brown and see him as a Paul Pierce/Caron Butler type player.

JT would have gone in the top three in the past 7 drafts. This one is just particularly loaded.

Agree.  I think he's a better than average NBA athlete, and the description of him needing strength is true of most prospects.  He's more solidly built than Jackson, but not as athletic (few are though).

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2017, 05:40:17 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

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Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2017, 06:04:03 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2017, 06:13:00 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

Chill dawg! 

Collins doesn't have the ceiling that Isaac or Tatum have.  Let's not rank players based on one game.

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2017, 06:15:27 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

First of all chilidawg, I will shout whenever and however often that I want to do so!!!  Second, Collins is 16th in draftexpress.com, but only 23rd on nbadraft.net.  I do keep up and pay attention probably FAR MORE than you do!!!  Yes, I just shouted.  Did I hurt your feelings?  Do you need to go to your safe place chilidawg?:-)))

Another guy getting absolutely NO respect by your sited draftexpress.com is Caleb Swanigan who is NOT even listed in their top 60.  He is JUST averaging about 19 points, 13 boards, 2.7 assists, and 1 block and shooting 54.2% and 47.5% from three and 77.7% at the line!!

It is NOT called shouting.  It is called PASSION.  I am SO VERY SORRY if I in some way hurt your feelings chilidawg.

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Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2017, 06:34:38 PM »

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My feelings are just fine, just giving you a little **** for your posting style.

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2017, 07:08:17 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

Smitty77

because this is the Jason Tatum thread?   :)

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2017, 07:11:51 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

First of all chilidawg, I will shout whenever and however often that I want to do so!!!  Second, Collins is 16th in draftexpress.com, but only 23rd on nbadraft.net.  I do keep up and pay attention probably FAR MORE than you do!!!  Yes, I just shouted.  Did I hurt your feelings?  Do you need to go to your safe place chilidawg?:-)))

Another guy getting absolutely NO respect by your sited draftexpress.com is Caleb Swanigan who is NOT even listed in their top 60.  He is JUST averaging about 19 points, 13 boards, 2.7 assists, and 1 block and shooting 54.2% and 47.5% from three and 77.7% at the line!!

It is NOT called shouting.  It is called PASSION.  I am SO VERY SORRY if I in some way hurt your feelings chilidawg.

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DraftExpress has Swanigan at #26.   

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2017, 07:16:17 PM »

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My feelings are just fine, just giving you a little **** for your posting style.

I deserve that:-))

Smitty77

P.S.  What do you think of Swanigan chilidawg??

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2017, 07:28:06 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

First of all chilidawg, I will shout whenever and however often that I want to do so!!!  Second, Collins is 16th in draftexpress.com, but only 23rd on nbadraft.net.  I do keep up and pay attention probably FAR MORE than you do!!!  Yes, I just shouted.  Did I hurt your feelings?  Do you need to go to your safe place chilidawg?:-)))

Another guy getting absolutely NO respect by your sited draftexpress.com is Caleb Swanigan who is NOT even listed in their top 60.  He is JUST averaging about 19 points, 13 boards, 2.7 assists, and 1 block and shooting 54.2% and 47.5% from three and 77.7% at the line!!

It is NOT called shouting.  It is called PASSION.  I am SO VERY SORRY if I in some way hurt your feelings chilidawg.

Smitty77

Swanigan is currently #26 on DraftExpress.  I don't watch enough college ball to know if he should be higher, but he is far from being left out
I'm bitter.

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2017, 08:48:29 PM »

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WHY is NO ONE talking about John Collins from Wake Forest University?

He just DOMINATED Jason Tatum and Duke AT Duke!!  He had 31 and 15 boards on 13-18 shooting (72.2%).  Tatum had 19 and 7 on 6-11 shooting (54.5%).

Collins is the real deal!!!

Smitty77

COLLINS is 16 in the latest Draft Express mock, so SOME PEOPLE are TALKING about him!!!!

PAY BETTER ATTENTION AND STOP SHOUTING!!!

First of all chilidawg, I will shout whenever and however often that I want to do so!!!  Second, Collins is 16th in draftexpress.com, but only 23rd on nbadraft.net.  I do keep up and pay attention probably FAR MORE than you do!!!  Yes, I just shouted.  Did I hurt your feelings?  Do you need to go to your safe place chilidawg?:-)))

Another guy getting absolutely NO respect by your sited draftexpress.com is Caleb Swanigan who is NOT even listed in their top 60.  He is JUST averaging about 19 points, 13 boards, 2.7 assists, and 1 block and shooting 54.2% and 47.5% from three and 77.7% at the line!!

It is NOT called shouting.  It is called PASSION.  I am SO VERY SORRY if I in some way hurt your feelings chilidawg.

Smitty77

Swanigan is currently #26 on DraftExpress.  I don't watch enough college ball to know if he should be higher, but he is far from being left out

My bad bitter jim.  I missed that.

Thanks buddy!!

Smitty77

Re: Jason Tatum (Merged)
« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2017, 11:51:09 AM »

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It is incredible that Tatum is considered a worst case scenario pick for us. I like him a lot better than Jaylen Brown and see him as a Paul Pierce/Caron Butler type player.

JT would have gone in the top three in the past 7 drafts. This one is just particularly loaded.

Agree.  I think he's a better than average NBA athlete, and the description of him needing strength is true of most prospects.  He's more solidly built than Jackson, but not as athletic (few are though).

Great points.