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Red Sox Get Sale
« on: December 06, 2016, 01:46:33 PM »

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The Sox just traded for Sale.

Let's hope this Sale isn't as costly as the Price they paid last winter. Bad joke, I know ...  ;D
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Re: Red Sox Get Sale
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 01:49:09 PM »

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Oh wow!!!

I like this. I like this a lot.

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2016, 01:49:31 PM »

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Sale. Porcello.  Price. 

That's pretty solid.  Plus, you're getting one of the best contracts in baseball.


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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2016, 01:50:49 PM »

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Sale. Porcello.  Price. 

That's pretty solid.  Plus, you're getting one of the best contracts in baseball.

Well, a lot of us thought Price-Porcello-Rodriguez would be solid, and look at how that turned out. Here's hoping to something better.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 01:51:58 PM »

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Sale. Porcello.  Price. 

That's pretty solid.  Plus, you're getting one of the best contracts in baseball.

Well, a lot of us thought Price-Porcello-Rodriguez would be solid, and look at how that turned out. Here's hoping to something better.

Sale is in an absolutely different stratosphere as Rodriguez.   He is a legit ace and anchor. 


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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2016, 01:56:15 PM »

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Losing moncado hurts a bit

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 02:00:26 PM »

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Losing moncado hurts a bit

A bit, though he's still only a prospect, whereas Sale is a proven commodity. The aspect of this trade—along with the Shaw trade—that I dislike is that the Sox are basically handing the starting 3B job to a guy who last year showed up very overweight and played terribly, and as of now has zero competition.

Sale. Porcello.  Price. 

That's pretty solid.  Plus, you're getting one of the best contracts in baseball.

Well, a lot of us thought Price-Porcello-Rodriguez would be solid, and look at how that turned out. Here's hoping to something better.

Sale is in an absolutely different stratosphere as Rodriguez.   He is a legit ace and anchor. 

You're absolutely right. I wasn't trying to directly compare those two, but making the point that last year we all thought about Price what we're all probably thinking right now about Sale, and look at the struggles Price went through. Hopefully Price improves and Sale doesn't have those struggles.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 02:09:25 PM »

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Could we get any value for Drew Pomeranz? That would be swell.

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Say what you want about them, but this current regime takes action. Now they need to find a legit replacement for Big Papi.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2016, 02:18:09 PM »

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reactions and analyses here:

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/chris-sale-to-boston-for-moncada-kopech-2-prospects.16930/page-4

big win for the sox. Sale is great and has been great for 5 years. last 5 years has been an all star each year. finished top 6 in the cy young award race.

giving up moncada hurts, but who knows if he will ever hit the major league curve ball? (30% K rate, ouch.)

kopech might be great, might be a reliever, might be nothing. really hard to judge from AA.

diaz and basabe are lottery tickets, toss in players.

the sox look good for the next 3-4 years. lots of young talent and all signed.

As of now, the top prospects (per Soxprospects) left in the Sox system are:
Devers
Groome
Travis
Johnson
Dalbec
Chatham
Ockimey

A lot thinner than it was, but there are still a few good prospects. And for me, the point of the minor league has always been to provide talent for the major league club - either through promoting good talent or enabling trades for it.

I did not include Benentendi or Hernandez since they are already in Boston.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2016, 02:24:00 PM »

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Picking up Buchholz's option suddenly looks even worse.

Moncada and Kopech is a pretty good haul, though. Wonder whether we'll have another Anthony Rizzo situation here.
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Finally.

Between Sale, Price, and Porcello, the Sox should be able to get a quality start in the playoffs.


Big question now is: how do they replace Ortiz?
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Picking up Buchholz's option suddenly looks even worse.

Moncada and Kopech is a pretty good haul, though. Wonder whether we'll have another Anthony Rizzo situation here.
in the context of the talent of this team and its wallet, buchholz is not a major problem. they can always trade him. starting pitchers are always in demand. or convert him to long reliever.

and dont forget, Sale is getting paid around $12,000,000 a year for three years. very very reasonable contract.

moncada's future is the key. but you need to give up talent to get talent...unless you are ainge. :)
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Finally.

Between Sale, Price, and Porcello, the Sox should be able to get a quality start in the playoffs.


Big question now is: how do they replace Ortiz?

I would imagine they have to ante up and sign Encarnacion or else all this pitching is wasted.

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2016, 02:27:28 PM »

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Finally.

Between Sale, Price, and Porcello, the Sox should be able to get a quality start in the playoffs.


Big question now is: how do they replace Ortiz?
Ortiz will never be replaceable but we still have a ton of good bats in the lineup.