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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2016, 11:16:56 PM »

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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2016, 11:18:11 PM »

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IT will sulk if he don't start.

So trade him. His value is at its highest right now.
Remember when Smart started in the beginning of 2015 and we were a team headed for the lottery? Oh yeah then IT came and we started winning. So trade IT and I can almost guarentee you our Ws plummet
does context mean nothing?
How about this context? IT starts in 2016 we win 48 games. IT starts and improves yet again this year to 26 PPG and 6 APG and has become one of the best PG in the game and now we are on pace for 50 wins.
i get that

And IT is a tremendous player

..

But if you think this team would be headed for the lottery with smart starting, then i don't know what to tell you.
Never said that. Just pointed to 2014 to show that Smart didn't have the same impact on the game that IT does, or at least enough to put up wins on the board single-handedly like IT. Anyways we have Al Horford and I doubt he would let us get there.
smart was a rookie, though

Rookies typically don't help you win games when they play big minutes
That's fine well look at 2016 and 2017 for further proof of IT's affect on the game is more substantial and brings more W's than Smart when given the opportunity.

Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2016, 11:26:15 PM »

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IT will sulk if he don't start.

So trade him. His value is at its highest right now.
Remember when Smart started in the beginning of 2015 and we were a team headed for the lottery? Oh yeah then IT came and we started winning. So trade IT and I can almost guarentee you our Ws plummet
does context mean nothing?
How about this context? IT starts in 2016 we win 48 games. IT starts and improves yet again this year to 26 PPG and 6 APG and has become one of the best PG in the game and now we are on pace for 50 wins.
i get that

And IT is a tremendous player

..

But if you think this team would be headed for the lottery with smart starting, then i don't know what to tell you.
Never said that. Just pointed to 2014 to show that Smart didn't have the same impact on the game that IT does, or at least enough to put up wins on the board single-handedly like IT. Anyways we have Al Horford and I doubt he would let us get there.
smart was a rookie, though

Rookies typically don't help you win games when they play big minutes
That's fine well look at 2016 and 2017 for further proof of IT's affect on the game is more substantial and brings more W's than Smart when given the opportunity to win.
just want you to know that i'm not saying smart is better than IT

I'm saying i like what i see from our team as a whole when other people handle the rock

IT is our best scorer, but there are times when the offense becomes predictable, and the ball doesn't move

I love IT, but i feel like if there is value out there for Thomas, we should capitalize

I don't think we should be paying him 25+ million in a few years while simultaneously potentially stunting the growth of smart and rozier 




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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2016, 11:27:56 PM »

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I like starting the game with our best defensive team and wearing the other team down. Then bring IT off the bench like we used to do. McHale came off the bench, why can't IT?

Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2016, 11:29:05 PM »

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Look at every position on the team. We have passers everywhere. That should be a huge advantage for us. Keep moving the ball, dag nabbit!
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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2016, 11:29:06 PM »

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IT will sulk if he don't start.

So trade him. His value is at its highest right now.
Remember when Smart started in the beginning of 2015 and we were a team headed for the lottery? Oh yeah then IT came and we started winning. So trade IT and I can almost guarentee you our Ws plummet
does context mean nothing?
How about this context? IT starts in 2016 we win 48 games. IT starts and improves yet again this year to 26 PPG and 6 APG and has become one of the best PG in the game and now we are on pace for 50 wins.
i get that

And IT is a tremendous player

..

But if you think this team would be headed for the lottery with smart starting, then i don't know what to tell you.
Never said that. Just pointed to 2014 to show that Smart didn't have the same impact on the game that IT does, or at least enough to put up wins on the board single-handedly like IT. Anyways we have Al Horford and I doubt he would let us get there.
smart was a rookie, though

Rookies typically don't help you win games when they play big minutes
That's fine well look at 2016 and 2017 for further proof of IT's affect on the game is more substantial and brings more W's than Smart when given the opportunity to win.
just want you to know that i'm not saying smart is better than IT

I'm saying i like what i see from our team as a whole when other people handle the rock

IT is our best scorer, but there are times when the offense becomes predictable, and the ball doesn't move

I love IT, but i feel like if there is value out there for Thomas, we should capitalize

I don't think we should be paying him 25+ million in a few years while simultaneously potentially stunting the growth of smart and rozier

Yes. Trade IT for one of Philly's bigs while his value is high.

Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2016, 11:31:23 PM »

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IT will sulk if he don't start.

So trade him. His value is at its highest right now.
Remember when Smart started in the beginning of 2015 and we were a team headed for the lottery? Oh yeah then IT came and we started winning. So trade IT and I can almost guarentee you our Ws plummet
does context mean nothing?
How about this context? IT starts in 2016 we win 48 games. IT starts and improves yet again this year to 26 PPG and 6 APG and has become one of the best PG in the game and now we are on pace for 50 wins.
i get that

And IT is a tremendous player

..

But if you think this team would be headed for the lottery with smart starting, then i don't know what to tell you.
Never said that. Just pointed to 2014 to show that Smart didn't have the same impact on the game that IT does, or at least enough to put up wins on the board single-handedly like IT. Anyways we have Al Horford and I doubt he would let us get there.
smart was a rookie, though

Rookies typically don't help you win games when they play big minutes
That's fine well look at 2016 and 2017 for further proof of IT's affect on the game is more substantial and brings more W's than Smart when given the opportunity to win.
just want you to know that i'm not saying smart is better than IT

I'm saying i like what i see from our team as a whole when other people handle the rock

IT is our best scorer, but there are times when the offense becomes predictable, and the ball doesn't move

I love IT, but i feel like if there is value out there for Thomas, we should capitalize

I don't think we should be paying him 25+ million in a few years while simultaneously potentially stunting the growth of smart and rozier

Yes. Trade IT for one of Philly's bigs while his value is high.
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There might be some merit to starting the game with Smart to establish a defense and get everyone involved in the offense, but trading Isaiah dooms this team for the '16/'17 season.
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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2016, 11:41:28 PM »

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There's no convincing you people. I understand that his value is at an All-Time high and whatever you people want. This team wins with IT, has very little chance to win without him, and somehow to you guys think he makes this team worse.

 I really hope he's out the rest of this 3 game stretch just to shut down this crowd. Guaranteed we don't win against OKC, Toronto, or SA without him. This is why I'm glad Brad is coach and you guys aren't
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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2016, 11:46:08 PM »

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The scary part is that I'm sure that some people still believe that Smart still has All-Star potential!!! I just can't talk about Smart on this forum. He's a good defender and brings a lot of energy off the bench. To me he's a bust at the 6th overall pick in a strong draft that could have easily landed us a solid starter and hasn't shown me anything to change that notion.
I'm done talking about this Smart guy now just unbelievable the blinding love for Smart on this forum

Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #99 on: December 08, 2016, 12:27:10 AM »

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The scary part is that I'm sure that some people still believe that Smart still has All-Star potential!!! I just can't talk about Smart on this forum. He's a good defender and brings a lot of energy off the bench. To me he's a bust at the 6th overall pick in a strong draft that could have easily landed us a solid starter and hasn't shown me anything to change that notion.
I'm done talking about this Smart guy now just unbelievable the blinding love for Smart on this forum
Bust seems to be a bit strong. When he was drafted the other guys in the conversation were Vonleh, Randle, and Stauskas.

I understand the consensus is gonna put Randle over Smart, but if you want to talk about real busts, look at the next two guys in that list.
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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #100 on: December 08, 2016, 12:33:03 AM »

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Guaranteed we don't win against OKC, Toronto, or SA without him. This is why I'm glad Brad is coach and you guys aren't

Well now that you've guaranteed it and hes probably going to be out for a while, we may as well not play the games.

Celtics get an extended break.



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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #101 on: December 08, 2016, 12:55:32 AM »

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I seem to remember this happening with another diva point guard that the Celtics traded...

Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2016, 01:27:15 AM »

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I seem to remember this happening with another diva point guard that the Celtics traded...

Not sure thomas deserves to be lumped into the same basket as rondo.


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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2016, 01:33:53 AM »

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Re: I'm finally on board.. Thomas should come off the bench
« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2016, 03:58:59 AM »

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Why do so many think the C's are a contender?

It's one thing to say IT is not starting material for a contender, and a different thing to say IT should not start for the C's.

(just for the record, I'm not saying IT could not start for a contender, but rather that this is another conversation)

Also, bear in mind that IT is averaging 6.2 assists this season; he has 2.2 TOs (in both cats he is doing better than last season). What evidence do ppl have for calling him a bad passer?

Same for calling him a bad ball handler.

Finally, his FG% is 42.5: not only is this not as bad as you would think by reading this thread but it is roughly the same as last season (42.8%).