Report: Blazers interested in Noel

[MBunge]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

[tazzmaniac]

Is Ezeli out for a season so they need defensive center?

Doesn't seem very smart move to have two defensive centers tied up for few years.

Ezeli's injured but I don't think he's been called out for the season.

Noel's a bit too light to be favored in every defensive matchup, a healthy Ezeli would be huge against some of the big centers at the top of the westeven conference like Deandre Jordan and Capela. Even when you play the Warriors you still have to matchup with Javale McGee.

Seems like a lot of the buzz has soured on Plumlee, wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk at his next contract. Could see them going after Olynyk this offseason who'd be a great pairing for Noel. When you have the kind of shot creation that Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum bring your back court loading up on defensive frontcourt players is never a bad idea.

The Blazers have no cap space to go after anyone this offseason. 

[jambr380]

Is Ezeli out for a season so they need defensive center?

Doesn't seem very smart move to have two defensive centers tied up for few years.

Ezeli's injured but I don't think he's been called out for the season.

Noel's a bit too light to be favored in every defensive matchup, a healthy Ezeli would be huge against some of the big centers at the top of the westeven conference like Deandre Jordan and Capela. Even when you play the Warriors you still have to matchup with Javale McGee.

Seems like a lot of the buzz has soured on Plumlee, wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk at his next contract. Could see them going after Olynyk this offseason who'd be a great pairing for Noel. When you have the kind of shot creation that Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum bring your back court loading up on defensive frontcourt players is never a bad idea.

The Blazers have no cap space to go after anyone this offseason.

Perhaps that's why they are interested in Noel - at least they would be able to go over the cap to match whatever other offers he may receive. I am sure they are not looking to give up equal value so it could be almost like a free agent signing.

[Big333223]

http://ripcityproject.com/2016/11/19/will-festus-ezeli-play-minute-portland/

It looks like Ezeli's health can't be counted on and the second year on his contract is a team option. As bad as Potrland's defense has been, Noel would be a nice pickup for them. But he'd also be a nice pickup for the C's, so... here's hoping.

[PhoSita]

How about Evan Turner and Moe Harkless for Noel and Henderson?

Hah.

What, the Sixers don't want Evan and Moe back?  And on such bargain contracts!

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Seriously though, Evan Turner has the worst shooting guard RPM so far this year.

CBS is a genius at getting the most out of mid-level players. If we can get another star or two on this team, I will never be worried about our role players.

[jpotter33]

http://ripcityproject.com/2016/11/19/will-festus-ezeli-play-minute-portland/

It looks like Ezeli's health can't be counted on and the second year on his contract is a team option. As bad as Potrland's defense has been, Noel would be a nice pickup for them. But he'd also be a nice pickup for the C's, so... here's hoping.

Yep. I'm not going to significantly overpay for him, such as by trading a Brooklyn pick for him, but he'd really help us out in a lot of ways. I still think outside of an unlikely Boogie trade and the very, very, very slim chances of nabbing someone like Griffin in free agency, he's our best option to upgrade our frontcourt for the foreseeable future. Even the draft with Brooklyn picks are more of a long-term than short-term solution.

[LarBrd33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

[jpotter33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

[LarBrd33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

I don't think you guys understand what the word incentive means.   If the offers are garbage, they are far better off just keeping Noel off the bench as a defensive role player, either matching or signing him to a QO this Summer, and keeping him as a defensive role player next year until someone gives them an acceptable offer or they eventually let him walk years later or after his QO is over.   

That's unlikely to happen, though.  Lots of teams want Noel.  They'll probably get an offer that makes sense for them at some point before deadline.  If they don't get an acceptable offer, they'll keep him.  Tough cookies, Nerlens.  Suck it up and embrace your new role.

[tazzmaniac]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

Letting Noel walk for nothing would be better than settling for an unacceptable trade.  I wouldn't trade Noel for Crabbe for example.   

[LarBrd33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

Letting Noel walk for nothing would be better than settling for an unacceptable trade.  I wouldn't trade Noel for Crabbe for example.   

I don't know how Philly feels about Crabbe, but if that's the best offer they have received from the numerous teams interested in Noel... and they still haven't traded Noel... it probably means they think they are better off keeping Noel and there's no incentive to trade him.

Then again perhaps Philly likes crabbe.  Perhaps they are waiting until December 15th when more players can be traded.  Perhaps the teams interested in Noel want to see if he's healthy first (they have a rehab stint scheduled for him in the D-League).   We'll see what happens.

[jpotter33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

I don't think you guys understand what the word incentive means.   If the offers are garbage, they are far better off just keeping Noel off the bench as a defensive role player, either matching or signing him to a QO this Summer, and keeping him as a defensive role player next year until someone gives them an acceptable offer or they eventually let him walk years later or after his QO is over.   

That's unlikely to happen, though.  Lots of teams want Noel.  They'll probably get an offer that makes sense for them at some point before deadline.  If they don't get an acceptable offer, they'll keep him.  Tough cookies, Nerlens.  Suck it up and embrace your new role.

It'd be nice to only reason in the fantasy land that you create this situations out of...

This is the real NBA, and things simply don't work like that. They're not going to screw over a player like that, and you're completely ignorant of how things really work if you think that Noel wouldn't be a locker-room issue in that situation, especially after already voicing complaints.

Once again, this isn't fantasy basketball where context doesn't matter, no matter how much you want it to be... 

[jpotter33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

Letting Noel walk for nothing would be better than settling for an unacceptable trade.  I wouldn't trade Noel for Crabbe for example.   

Yeah... no it's not. Anything is better than nothing, even a second round pick. As long as it doesn't hamper them in the future, which pretty much nothing will with their cap situation, then something is always going to be better than nothing for them.

[jpotter33]

they don't have incentive to do anything. 

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.  All Noel has left on his rookie deal is the qualifying offer next year.  If he signs that, Philly CANNOT trade him without his consent and he then becomes an unrestricted free agent.  Any team Philly tries to trade Noel to faces the exact same problem.  The longer Philly waits to trade, teams will have LESS incentive to make a deal.  Why give up a lot for a guy who has already made it plain that he wants out of Philly and can make that happen after next season?

So while Philly could just let Noel walk for nothing rather than accept less than they may want, it is simply untrue to suggest that somehow they hold all the cards and have no incentive to trade him.

Mike

If they don't get an acceptable offer, they have no incentive to trade him.

I'm not sure that you understand what the word "incentive" means. They have every reason and incentive in the world to make a trade before the deadline, because they're simply not going to pay him the contract he's going to get this summer. Bar none. So he'll essentially walk for nothing otherwise.

Letting Noel walk for nothing would be better than settling for an unacceptable trade.  I wouldn't trade Noel for Crabbe for example.   

I don't know how Philly feels about Crabbe, but if that's the best offer they have received from the numerous teams interested in Noel... and they still haven't traded Noel... it probably means they think they are better off keeping Noel and there's no incentive to trade him.

Then again perhaps Philly likes crabbe.  Perhaps they are waiting until December 15th when more players can be traded.  Perhaps the teams interested in Noel want to see if he's healthy first (they have a rehab stint scheduled for him in the D-League).   We'll see what happens.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Even if they do like Crabbe, they can't trade for him until January 15th. Also, no team is going to trade for him without assurances that he's healthy; thus, he's going to have to be showcased with playing time to show that he's actually healthy.

Just another example of you functioning in fantasy NBA land and not taking the real world context into consideration...