Magic and Celtics trade idea - Gordon/Hezonja

[Eddie20]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

I'll give you a TP for simply not having Mickey in the rotation. You've made strides in finally realizing he's awful.

Gordon isn't quite the garbage Mickey is, but I take pause in trading for a natural PF, without size, trapped in a SF's body, but can't shoot. The way he's developed, or lack thereof, makes me think his future is as an energy bench guy on a playoff team.

I will admit Mickey is bad when you admit your boy Bender is a bust

It's way too early to call Bender a bust.  He's bad now, but he was always viewed as a long term prospect, so being bad now doesn't make him a bust

That's be like calling Bradley a bust after just a couple of months

Exactly. He just turned 19 a week ago and was expected to struggle initially. Whoever thought he would make an immediate impact was simply delusional.

Your delusional then to say Mickey is a bust already

He has had very little opportunity with the parent team

He's had limited opportunity because he's not a good player. Stevens sees Mickey in practice all the time, and him not receiving playing time should tell you all you need to know. Unless of course you believe you know more than Stevens.

[Tr1boy]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

I'll give you a TP for simply not having Mickey in the rotation. You've made strides in finally realizing he's awful.

Gordon isn't quite the garbage Mickey is, but I take pause in trading for a natural PF, without size, trapped in a SF's body, but can't shoot. The way he's developed, or lack thereof, makes me think his future is as an energy bench guy on a playoff team.

I will admit Mickey is bad when you admit your boy Bender is a bust

It's way too early to call Bender a bust.  He's bad now, but he was always viewed as a long term prospect, so being bad now doesn't make him a bust

That's be like calling Bradley a bust after just a couple of months

Exactly. He just turned 19 a week ago and was expected to struggle initially. Whoever thought he would make an immediate impact was simply delusional.

Your delusional then to say Mickey is a bust already

He has had very little opportunity with the parent team

He's had limited opportunity because he's not a good player. Stevens sees Mickey in practice all the time, and him not receiving playing time should tell you all you need to know. Unless of course you believe you know more than Stevens.

Ainge has stated that Mickey, Young are in tough situations because there are players ahead of them... Due to experience, salary etc.

Also i dont trust stevens in handling min for young players... His overplaying David Lee last season even though he stinked is proof

[CroCorvus]

Who the hell are Hezonja and Wilcox ?? You really guys write every thought that crosses your mind. I don't see that as a quality on this forum.

This.

One day we package our BKN picks for Boogie and the other day we are giving them for Aaron Gordon.

[Tr1boy]

Who the hell are Hezonja and Wilcox ?? You really guys write every thought that crosses your mind. I don't see that as a quality on this forum.

This.

One day we package our BKN picks for Boogie and the other day we are giving them for Aaron Gordon.

Well it would be the 2018 nets 1st not 2017

[slamtheking]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

with Gordon's lack of development, you could probably get him straight up for Rozier at this point.

[Moranis]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

I'll give you a TP for simply not having Mickey in the rotation. You've made strides in finally realizing he's awful.

Gordon isn't quite the garbage Mickey is, but I take pause in trading for a natural PF, without size, trapped in a SF's body, but can't shoot. The way he's developed, or lack thereof, makes me think his future is as an energy bench guy on a playoff team.

I will admit Mickey is bad when you admit your boy Bender is a bust

It's way too early to call Bender a bust.  He's bad now, but he was always viewed as a long term prospect, so being bad now doesn't make him a bust

That's be like calling Bradley a bust after just a couple of months

Exactly. He just turned 19 a week ago and was expected to struggle initially. Whoever thought he would make an immediate impact was simply delusional.

Your delusional then to say Mickey is a bust already

He has had very little opportunity with the parent team

He's had limited opportunity because he's not a good player. Stevens sees Mickey in practice all the time, and him not receiving playing time should tell you all you need to know. Unless of course you believe you know more than Stevens.

Ainge has stated that Mickey, Young are in tough situations because there are players ahead of them... Due to experience, salary etc.

Also i dont trust stevens in handling min for young players... His overplaying David Lee last season even though he stinked is proof

That doesn't apply to Rozier?  Mickey and Young don't play because they aren't good enough to play.  It really is that simple. 

[Eddie20]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

I'll give you a TP for simply not having Mickey in the rotation. You've made strides in finally realizing he's awful.

Gordon isn't quite the garbage Mickey is, but I take pause in trading for a natural PF, without size, trapped in a SF's body, but can't shoot. The way he's developed, or lack thereof, makes me think his future is as an energy bench guy on a playoff team.

I will admit Mickey is bad when you admit your boy Bender is a bust

It's way too early to call Bender a bust.  He's bad now, but he was always viewed as a long term prospect, so being bad now doesn't make him a bust

That's be like calling Bradley a bust after just a couple of months

Exactly. He just turned 19 a week ago and was expected to struggle initially. Whoever thought he would make an immediate impact was simply delusional.

Your delusional then to say Mickey is a bust already

He has had very little opportunity with the parent team

He's had limited opportunity because he's not a good player. Stevens sees Mickey in practice all the time, and him not receiving playing time should tell you all you need to know. Unless of course you believe you know more than Stevens.

Ainge has stated that Mickey, Young are in tough situations because there are players ahead of them... Due to experience, salary etc.

This isn't accurate. Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogans, and David Lee are examples of players that rotted on the bench here. Stevens plays the players that give us the best chance at winning. It's why young and cheap Pressey would get playing time and a guy like Mickey can't.

[BitterJim]

To Magic:  Rozier, Young, Amir, 2018 Nets pick, 2019 Celts 1st
To Celtics: Gordon, Hezonja, Wilcox

Celtics lineup

Horford
Gordon
Crowder
AB
IT

KO
Jerebko
Brown
Hezonja
Smart

I'll give you a TP for simply not having Mickey in the rotation. You've made strides in finally realizing he's awful.

Gordon isn't quite the garbage Mickey is, but I take pause in trading for a natural PF, without size, trapped in a SF's body, but can't shoot. The way he's developed, or lack thereof, makes me think his future is as an energy bench guy on a playoff team.

I will admit Mickey is bad when you admit your boy Bender is a bust

It's way too early to call Bender a bust.  He's bad now, but he was always viewed as a long term prospect, so being bad now doesn't make him a bust

That's be like calling Bradley a bust after just a couple of months

Exactly. He just turned 19 a week ago and was expected to struggle initially. Whoever thought he would make an immediate impact was simply delusional.

Your delusional then to say Mickey is a bust already

He has had very little opportunity with the parent team

He's had limited opportunity because he's not a good player. Stevens sees Mickey in practice all the time, and him not receiving playing time should tell you all you need to know. Unless of course you believe you know more than Stevens.

Ainge has stated that Mickey, Young are in tough situations because there are players ahead of them... Due to experience, salary etc.

Also i dont trust stevens in handling min for young players... His overplaying David Lee last season even though he stinked is proof

That doesn't apply to Rozier?  Mickey and Young don't play because they aren't good enough to play.  It really is that simple.

Oh please, what players on rookie contracts (besides Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger, and Tyler Zeller [edit: Phil Pressey and Jordan Crawford, too]) have gotten big minutes on a Stevens-coached team? It's clear that Brad just hates young guys, not that Young and Mickey aren't good enough to be rotation players in the NBA

[wdleehi]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now. 

[Tr1boy]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now.

Two top 5 pick players and for the package its an overpay?  Its the nets 2018 pick ....

[wdleehi]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now.

Two top 5 pick players and for the package its an overpay?  Its the nets 2018 pick ....

Yes.  Major overpay for guys that do not make the Celtics a better contender this season.


Major overpay for two guys that have not lived up to their drafted position. 

Major overpay when there is little hope for a turnaround for the nets in the next two years. 

[Tr1boy]

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[Tr1boy]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now.

Two top 5 pick players and for the package its an overpay?  Its the nets 2018 pick ....

Yes.  Major overpay for guys that do not make the Celtics a better contender this season.


Major overpay for two guys that have not lived up to their drafted position. 

Major overpay when there is little hope for a turnaround for the nets in the next two years.

Fall in love with the draft syndrome

And how do we know the 2018 pick/player t, even top 10 will amount to anything?

If Gordon and Hezonja were at peak we would have to give up a ton... It goes both ways

[BitterJim]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now.

Two top 5 pick players and for the package its an overpay?  Its the nets 2018 pick ....

Yes.  Major overpay for guys that do not make the Celtics a better contender this season.


Major overpay for two guys that have not lived up to their drafted position. 

Major overpay when there is little hope for a turnaround for the nets in the next two years.

Fall in love with the draft syndrome

And how do we know the 2018 pick/player t, even top 10 will amount to anything?

If Gordon and Hezonja were at peak we would have to give up a ton... It goes both ways

We don't.  We do, however, know that Gordon and Hezonja haven't

[Tr1boy]

Major overpay for players that do not fit the current push to compete now.

Two top 5 pick players and for the package its an overpay?  Its the nets 2018 pick ....

Yes.  Major overpay for guys that do not make the Celtics a better contender this season.


Major overpay for two guys that have not lived up to their drafted position. 

Major overpay when there is little hope for a turnaround for the nets in the next two years.

Fall in love with the draft syndrome

And how do we know the 2018 pick/player t, even top 10 will amount to anything?

If Gordon and Hezonja were at peak we would have to give up a ton... It goes both ways

We don't.  We do, however, know that Gordon and Hezonja haven't

Yes true.. on the lowly magic team... On a solid team like the Celts I bet Gordon game looks better