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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #135 on: May 19, 2017, 11:39:44 PM »

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Why would Hayward even consider Boston after this trash performance??

yes .....the love fest with CBS has never went away.

im kinda on the fence with him.

Why? They had open looks, they just can't make them. Most of it is who's playing. When they are hitting shots it's a different team, same offense, same coach, players just play better when they are hitting shots. Problem is we don't have any out side of IT (when healthy) that can do it.

You think Lue is an amazing coach. Nope. He has Lebron freaking JAmes,Irving and Love, and surrounded them with shooters.

It's amazing that two weeks ago people are praising the crap out of him with wins in Chi and Staring off up two against Wash. But loose to a super team, worst coach ever.  ::)

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #136 on: May 20, 2017, 11:39:40 AM »

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Why would Hayward even consider Boston after this trash performance??
I don't think an overachieving team getting blown out in the ECF really changes anything. Hawks blew the C's out last year. Cs signed Horford. I think if a player wants to go somewhere they go. It's not like the West will be any easier if he decides to stay there. Still had better odds in East imo.

Yeah that's the big thing, Hawks beat us and yet Horford signed with BOS LOL. Or if not, he probably would have gone to Washington. Doubt he was staying in ATL.

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #137 on: May 21, 2017, 03:16:35 AM »

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Gordon Hayward should, and will most undoubtedly give us a meeting, if he does opt out, which is pretty much assured at this point.

Once that happens, I'm pretty sure our chances got a lot higher. But is he really worth the max?
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #138 on: May 21, 2017, 08:04:27 AM »

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Gordon Hayward should, and will most undoubtedly give us a meeting, if he does opt out, which is pretty much assured at this point.

Once that happens, I'm pretty sure our chances got a lot higher. But is he really worth the max?

He's worth the max on the open market.  It's what all-stars in their prime get. Heck, it's what non-all-stars like Harrison Barnes get.


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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #139 on: May 21, 2017, 08:20:25 AM »

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we could do worse than  a starting lineup of Fultz and Hayward .
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #140 on: May 21, 2017, 11:37:32 AM »

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Hayward is a "key" to unlock Celtics potential to reach the finals

Not only because the team adds one of the top SFs in the league....but also he will be able to

attract FAs... like a PG13

So FAs right now have two choices...join a team for monetary reasons  or a team that has a chance to make Conference finals year after year

Aldrige chose the Spurs.   Durant chose GSW.

The west - short term WCF = GSW/Spurs

The east - Cavs have no more cap space


This leaves guys like Hayward, PG13 , Butler with limited options (if wanting to make conference finals to have a chance at the finals).    Best way would be to join one of Celtics, Raptors, Wizards.    Celtics future looks the brightest with Horford, IT4 and two top upcoming picks.    Raptors might lose Lowry.  Wizards have a tight cap space and may only be able to add a good but not all star calibre player



Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #141 on: May 21, 2017, 12:29:26 PM »

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Hayward is a "key" to unlock Celtics potential to reach the finals

Not only because the team adds one of the top SFs in the league....but also he will be able to

attract FAs... like a PG13

So FAs right now have two choices...join a team for monetary reasons  or a team that has a chance to make Conference finals year after year

Aldrige chose the Spurs.   Durant chose GSW.

The west - short term WCF = GSW/Spurs

The east - Cavs have no more cap space


This leaves guys like Hayward, PG13 , Butler with limited options (if wanting to make conference finals to have a chance at the finals).    Best way would be to join one of Celtics, Raptors, Wizards.    Celtics future looks the brightest with Horford, IT4 and two top upcoming picks.    Raptors might lose Lowry.  Wizards have a tight cap space and may only be able to add a good but not all star calibre player

TP. This is a pretty good thought, and makes me feel good about our chances.

Plus it's possible Toronto start to decline a bit especially if Lowry leaves, and if he goes to San Antonio, that may push Hayward out of Utah if he realizes the West may end up having like 2 super teams, plus a bunch of great-gritty teams like Houston, Clippers (who took Utah to 7 games without Griffin), Memphis, OKC, etc.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #142 on: May 21, 2017, 11:12:16 PM »

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GORDON HAYWARD MIGHT LOVE US AND CONSIDER US AGAIN!
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #143 on: May 21, 2017, 11:25:34 PM »

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Gordon Hayward should, and will most undoubtedly give us a meeting, if he does opt out, which is pretty much assured at this point.

Once that happens, I'm pretty sure our chances got a lot higher. But is he really worth the max?

He's worth the max on the open market.  It's what all-stars in their prime get. Heck, it's what non-all-stars like Harrison Barnes get.
And look at Bradley Beal and Mike Conley. How many all star games did Beal make before he got his deal? I'm pretty sure he still hasn't made one. Nor has Conley.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #144 on: May 21, 2017, 11:27:53 PM »

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GORDON HAYWARD MIGHT LOVE US AND CONSIDER US AGAIN!

Gordon Hayward should probably stop changing his mind after every game...

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #145 on: May 21, 2017, 11:40:49 PM »

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Hayward is a "key" to unlock Celtics potential to reach the finals

Not only because the team adds one of the top SFs in the league....but also he will be able to

attract FAs... like a PG13

So FAs right now have two choices...join a team for monetary reasons  or a team that has a chance to make Conference finals year after year

Aldrige chose the Spurs.   Durant chose GSW.

The west - short term WCF = GSW/Spurs

The east - Cavs have no more cap space


This leaves guys like Hayward, PG13 , Butler with limited options (if wanting to make conference finals to have a chance at the finals).    Best way would be to join one of Celtics, Raptors, Wizards.    Celtics future looks the brightest with Horford, IT4 and two top upcoming picks.    Raptors might lose Lowry.  Wizards have a tight cap space and may only be able to add a good but not all star calibre player
After we sign Hayward, we won't have any cap space left.  Then next offseason IT, Bradley and Smart are all free agents.  So how are we going to pay these free agents we attract?  Durant didn't take less to play for GSW and I don't think Aldridge did either to play for the Spurs. 

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #146 on: May 23, 2017, 06:12:52 PM »

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Take it as you may, but I was talking with a friend of mine who is actually from/lives in the Provo, Utah area (he's a Jazz fan). He goes to the same university as me in the Boston area, and he's in one of my summer classes this year (and was in a few classes the past year too)

I (kind of randomly LOL) asked him if he thinks Hayward stays put or leaves.

He thinks it's a given he leaves (unfortunately for him), and that the cheers at the end of the game felt more like a "thanks for all you've done for us Hayward" more than "Please stay". Apparently lots of Jazz fans think he's gone especially now with C's adding a #1 pick. If he stays, it's because of the chants, "Stayward signs" and more $$$ Jazz could offer him.

The main difference is Boston can add more talent the next few years, Jazz may have some trouble doing that without it affecting their current core/roster too. And even with Lebron reigning the East now, the West overall is A LOT harder to navigate.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #147 on: May 25, 2017, 10:18:52 PM »

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Hopefully Hayward isn't watching Game 5 and that Game 3 win over CLE w/o Isaiah was a "spark"  ;D
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #148 on: May 25, 2017, 10:19:52 PM »

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Hopefully Hayward isn't watching Game 5 and that Game 3 win over CLE w/o Isaiah was a "spark"  ;D

Honestly, you really think watching a game that shows a team needs help will turn away the very help the team may need?

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« Reply #149 on: May 25, 2017, 10:20:57 PM »

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Hopefully Hayward isn't watching Game 5 and that Game 3 win over CLE w/o Isaiah was a "spark"  ;D

Honestly, you really think watching a game that shows a team needs help will turn away the very help the team may need?

He's in a great situation in Utah too though.
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