Rumor: Klay

[alldaboston]

LOL

Please see this tweet about the source of the rumor: it'll make you at least chuckle : http://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/798241647146340352

[TrueFan]

LOL

Please see this tweet about the source of the rumor: it'll make you at least chuckle : http://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/798241647146340352

Isnt that article 3 days old and also involving different players then the one Scal proposed?

Scal can't be that silly to post a random rumor. I think he's just doing damage control.

[BitterJim]

Not only is the team sucking, but Scal is dropping the ball now too? What next, Tommy calls an unbiased game?  Never thought we would see the day when Jimmy Young is the only Celtic doing his job.

I mean, Cleveland won a championship and the Cubs just won the world series, so (in the words of Kevin Garnett) "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!"

[TrueFan]

The Noel parts sounds like total speculation to me.

But I'm not giving up Crowder, Bradley, and the Nets pick for Klay. That's way too much and making them virtually unbeatable. They get one or the other with Bradley/Crowder, and you get JJ and the Brooklyn pick, too.

And for those saying Klay's defense is as good as Bradley's and Crowder's D - get out of here. He's an above average defender, but he's so overrated on that end it's not even funny.

Klay is a top 20 player who sometimes plays at a top 10 level for stretches. Those guys don't come cheap and it would be a mistake not to pay up if it only cost AB Crowder and the pick.

I think that is reasonable enough value, but by giving up both Crowder and Bradley, Boston leaves a giant hole in the starting lineup which makes it almost a lateral move.  Boston either needs to keep one or get another wing back in the trade.  Only way it really works as a trade for Boston.

I agree that we won't be complete yet but it makes the offseason more interesting or the prospect of another trade happening.

The Philly portion actually makes a little more sense as Boston could get someone like Covington in the trade.  Covington isn't as good as Crowder, but is a solid enough player that he would start over Brown and can play some 4 as well, which makes it less of a lateral type move.

I don't think it's a lateral move at all. It's an upgrade for one position and then you focus on filling the small forward spot. We still have Smart who can slide to small forward and still have assets to get another player down the road.

[TrueFan]

Not only is the team sucking, but Scal is dropping the ball now too? What next, Tommy calls an unbiased game?  Never thought we would see the day when Jimmy Young is the only Celtic doing his job.

I mean, Cleveland won a championship and the Cubs just won the world series, so (in the words of Kevin Garnett) "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!"

Speaking of the Cavs. This trade would be soecifically targeting that matchup. Crowder can D Lebron and they need Crowder and Noel to guard Love and Thompson as well.

[alewilliam789]

The Noel parts sounds like total speculation to me.

But I'm not giving up Crowder, Bradley, and the Nets pick for Klay. That's way too much and making them virtually unbeatable. They get one or the other with Bradley/Crowder, and you get JJ and the Brooklyn pick, too.

And for those saying Klay's defense is as good as Bradley's and Crowder's D - get out of here. He's an above average defender, but he's so overrated on that end it's not even funny.

Klay is a top 20 player who sometimes plays at a top 10 level for stretches. Those guys don't come cheap and it would be a mistake not to pay up if it only cost AB Crowder and the pick.

I think that is reasonable enough value, but by giving up both Crowder and Bradley, Boston leaves a giant hole in the starting lineup which makes it almost a lateral move.  Boston either needs to keep one or get another wing back in the trade.  Only way it really works as a trade for Boston.

I agree that we won't be complete yet but it makes the offseason more interesting or the prospect of another trade happening.

The Philly portion actually makes a little more sense as Boston could get someone like Covington in the trade.  Covington isn't as good as Crowder, but is a solid enough player that he would start over Brown and can play some 4 as well, which makes it less of a lateral type move.

I don't think it's a lateral move at all. It's an upgrade for one position and then you focus on filling the small forward spot. We still have Smart who can slide to small forward and still have assets to get another player down the road.

Well Klay is around 6'8" anyways and a fantastic defender so we could probably slip him in at the 3 and have Smart play the 2. Would be all for that, but highly doubt they trade Klay.

[Moranis]

The Noel parts sounds like total speculation to me.

But I'm not giving up Crowder, Bradley, and the Nets pick for Klay. That's way too much and making them virtually unbeatable. They get one or the other with Bradley/Crowder, and you get JJ and the Brooklyn pick, too.

And for those saying Klay's defense is as good as Bradley's and Crowder's D - get out of here. He's an above average defender, but he's so overrated on that end it's not even funny.

Klay is a top 20 player who sometimes plays at a top 10 level for stretches. Those guys don't come cheap and it would be a mistake not to pay up if it only cost AB Crowder and the pick.

I think that is reasonable enough value, but by giving up both Crowder and Bradley, Boston leaves a giant hole in the starting lineup which makes it almost a lateral move.  Boston either needs to keep one or get another wing back in the trade.  Only way it really works as a trade for Boston.

I agree that we won't be complete yet but it makes the offseason more interesting or the prospect of another trade happening.

The Philly portion actually makes a little more sense as Boston could get someone like Covington in the trade.  Covington isn't as good as Crowder, but is a solid enough player that he would start over Brown and can play some 4 as well, which makes it less of a lateral type move.

I don't think it's a lateral move at all. It's an upgrade for one position and then you focus on filling the small forward spot. We still have Smart who can slide to small forward and still have assets to get another player down the road.

If it was just Klay for Jae, Avery, and the BKN pick, Boston would be left with a glaring hole in its lineup.  Neither Klay nor Smart are SF's and neither can really play the position for long periods of time.  Same with a guy like Green.  Thus, Brown is the only true SF on the roster in that scenario (with Jerekbo as the back-up).  While Klay is a clear upgrade over Avery at the SG, there is a clear downgrade at the SF position.  Now don't get me wrong, I'd still do the trade, but I don't see Boston as all that better in that scenario despite getting the best player in the trade.  Now if Boston can get someone like Covington for basically the same package, then the trade becomes a no brainer.

[Eddie20]

Not only is the team sucking, but Scal is dropping the ball now too? What next, Tommy calls an unbiased game?  Never thought we would see the day when Jimmy Young is the only Celtic doing his job.

I mean, Cleveland won a championship and the Cubs just won the world series, so (in the words of Kevin Garnett) "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!"

Speaking of the Cavs. This trade would be soecifically targeting that matchup. Crowder can D Lebron and they need Crowder and Noel to guard Love and Thompson as well.

I think it makes more sense for them to want Bradley instead of Crowder. Irving is the one guy they can't stop, so having Bradley on him, putting Steph on whoever is playing the 2, seems like the best approach.

[LarBrd33]

LOL

Please see this tweet about the source of the rumor: it'll make you at least chuckle : http://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/798241647146340352

Can we please end this?  There has always been twitter trolls and realgm idiots who spread completely nonsense fabricated rumors.  We've always had our Croters and CelticsThugs, but it was for the most part contained.  Within the last year, there's been a growing problem with nonsense clickbait blogs that literally make up bull**** daily.  Off the top of my head we have morningledger.com (where this nonsense Klay Thompson rumor comes from and the same site which had us trading for Paul George last month, for instance)... there's also, Inquisitr (which has us trading for James Harden this week), Sportsrageous (which has us trading for Carmelo Anthony this week) and Yibada (which has us trading everyone for everyone).   I'm sure there's others.  You merely need to google "(Popular Player Name) Trade" and you'll find some nonsense rumor from one of these nonsense sites.   Can we have every thread associated with these garbage sites locked?   Can mods create a ban list or a warning for every "rumor" thread that says "please do not post from one of these sites".  It's a sickness and it needs to be destroyed.

[tazzmaniac]

Bradley, Crowder and the 2017 Nets 1st is too much for Klay Thompson.  We'd need to find a starting SF in addition to a starting big with less tradable assets.  Not clear how we'd build a contender around IT/Klay/Horford.  Without the 2017 Nets 1st, it wouldn't be hard for other teams to outbid us for Cousins. 

[Eddie20]

Bradley, Crowder and the 2017 Nets 1st is too much for Klay Thompson.  We'd need to find a starting SF in addition to a starting big with less tradable assets.  Not clear how we'd build a contender around IT/Klay/Horford.  Without the 2017 Nets 1st, it wouldn't be hard for other teams to outbid us for Cousins.

You're a Celtics fan?

[oldtype]

I don't think any of us actually believed this was true, but it's a fun theoretical idea to discuss imo.

[LarBrd33]

LOL

Please see this tweet about the source of the rumor: it'll make you at least chuckle : http://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/798241647146340352

Can we please end this?  There has always been twitter trolls and realgm idiots who spread completely nonsense fabricated rumors.  We've always had our Croters and CelticsThugs, but it was for the most part contained.  Within the last year, there's been a growing problem with nonsense clickbait blogs that literally make up bull**** daily.  Off the top of my head we have morningledger.com (where this nonsense Klay Thompson rumor comes from and the same site which had us trading for Paul George last month, for instance)... there's also, Inquisitr (which has us trading for James Harden this week), Sportsrageous (which has us trading for Carmelo Anthony this week) and Yibada (which has us trading everyone for everyone).   I'm sure there's others.  You merely need to google "(Popular Player Name) Trade" and you'll find some nonsense rumor from one of these nonsense sites.   Can we have every thread associated with these garbage sites locked?   Can mods create a ban list or a warning for every "rumor" thread that says "please do not post from one of these sites".  It's a sickness and it needs to be destroyed.

Just to show you how deep this sickness is, I'll try out my own theory.  I ranked the top players in the NBA by EFF and googled their name and "trade" to see if I could find an associated "rumor".  Most have some garbage rumors associated with them.

James Harden:  Headlines and Global News has him going to the Celtics:  http://www.hngn.com/articles/216816/20161114/nba-trade-rumors-boston-celtics-acquire-houston-rockets-james-harden.htm

Anthony Davis:  Headlines and Global News has him being traded for Porzingis:  http://www.hngn.com/articles/216287/20161110/nba-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-kristaps-porzingis-traded-new-orleans-pelicans-new-york-knicks.htm

Russell Westbrook:  Inquisitr has him getting traded for Paul George:  http://www.inquisitr.com/3678966/nba-trade-rumors-oklahoma-city-thunder-to-acquire-paul-george-from-indiana-pacers/

LeBron James:  Apparently he's joining the Golden State Warriors:  http://www.thegamersdrop.com/2016/11/10/nba-trade-news-lebron-james-join-gsw-praises-steph-curry-13111/

Chris Paul:  Getting traded to the Hawks:  http://www.inquisitr.com/3598506/nba-trade-rumors-millsap-cavs-griffin-celtics-cp3-hawks-love-clippers/

DeMarcus Cousins:  To the Lakers for Randle and Russell:  http://www.parentherald.com/articles/84367/20161113/nba-latest-trade-rumors-los-angeles-lakers-welcome-demarcus-cousins-goodbye-to-dangelo-russell-and-julius-randle.htm

Jimmy Butler:  To the Wolves for Lavine and Wiggins:  http://www.inquisitr.com/3704212/nba-trade-rumors-chicago-bulls-trading-jimmy-butler-to-minnesota-timberwolves-for-andrew-wiggins-and-zach-lavine/

Hassan Whiteside:  Three-teamer with Jabari Parker and Eric Bledsoe being moved:  http://www.hngn.com/articles/216851/20161114/nba-trade-rumors-heats-hassan-whiteside-suns-eric-bledsoe-bucks.htm

GOrdon Hayward:  To the Blazers:  http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/nba-trade-rumors-2016-portland-future-destination-for-jazzs-gordon-hayward/53488.htm

Kawhi Leonard:  To the Warriors for Klay:  http://www.inquisitr.com/3609370/nba-trade-rumors-leonard-warriors-thompson-spurs/

Draymond Green:  To the Nuggets:  http://www.sportsrageous.com/rumors/nba-rumors-golden-state-warriors-trading-draymond-green-nuggets-magic-trades/53367/

Blake Griffin:  To the Spurs for Pau Gasol:  http://www.hngn.com/articles/216414/20161110/nba-trade-rumors-gasol-to-clippers-griffin-to-spurs.htm ... also to OKC  http://www.sportsrageous.com/rumors/nba-rumors-blake-griffin-paul-millsap-heading-to-okc-in-2017/56347/

Isaiah Thomas:  In a 3-teamer that gets us John Wall:  http://www.inquisitr.com/3629341/nba-trade-rumors-wall-celtics-rubio-wizards-thomas-timberwolves/

Kevin Love:  For Melo:  http://en.yibada.com/articles/172656/20161111/nba-trade-rumors-cavs-blockbuster-three-way-deal-knicks-heat.htm


It goes on and on.  If you want a fake rumor to dream about, some idiot has already written about it on a clickbait site.  I could find rumors of us trading Jaylen Brown in packages for Carmelo Anthony or Paul George or James Harden or Jimmy Butler or DeMarcus Cousins or Kevin Love.   I could still find multiple fake rumors about Boston trading Marcus Smart for Nerlens NOel.  Every pipe dream trade you could ever want as a Celtic fan has a blog claiming it's in the works.  Those sites need to be destroyed.

[TrueFan]

That is precisely why I believe Scal is using the site as cover. The players being discussed don't even match up from the site to Scal's rumor. It's 3 days old. Scal was able to find a random rumor to cover for making a rumor that most likely impacts friendships or just sources he might have. He most likely is just back tracking his comments because someone was upset over his announcing the trade rumor.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Not only is the team sucking, but Scal is dropping the ball now too? What next, Tommy calls an unbiased game?  Never thought we would see the day when Jimmy Young is the only Celtic doing his job.

I mean, Cleveland won a championship and the Cubs just won the world series, so (in the words of Kevin Garnett) "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!"

Hah, good point.   But I hope to miss that game in the event that it happens.