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Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2016, 09:22:25 AM »

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"Revisit" seems like the wrong word.  This topic is brought up daily.  It's beyond tired.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2016, 09:31:31 AM »

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Randle's RPM ranked him 84th of 87 power forwards last year, well behind guys on his own team like Ryan Kelly, Larry Nance and Brandon Bass.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2016, 09:37:42 AM »

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Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2016, 09:57:07 AM »

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Ever actually watch Smart?  Love him.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2016, 10:41:30 AM »

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Still a chance randle ends up the next Zach Randolph while smart ends up the next Tony Allen.  I still have smart a hair ahead of him, but that's me being a homer.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2016, 12:13:00 PM »

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Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2016, 12:14:53 PM »

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tony allen was a great defender. Smart's play can effect the entire game and dictate the outcome. and that's not just on the defensive end, he may be inconsistent offensively but thus far he's proven to be clutch on both ends - he makes plays that are needed.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 12:22:16 PM »

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I'd say it is a toss up at the moment. But we could probably use Randle rebounding ability right now.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 12:24:17 PM »

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A good time is when one of them is actually good. Right now they both too inconsistent and have huge holes in their game.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 01:57:09 PM »

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I still don't think Randle is a player who can help you win a championship. He looks like a good regular season player, but when the lights are on and championship-quality opponents are keyed in on his weaknesses, he will not be able to finish against length, he will not be able to defend anyone, he will not be able to spread the court, and he will only be able to play one position (stripping his team of flexibility on offense and defense).

Smart, on the other hand, is not a regular season "numbers" guy, but he is a guy you can win a championship with. His weaknesses like shooting, driving, or turnovers always vanish in the toughest situations. He can play multiple positions on offense or defense.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2016, 02:31:23 PM »

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I'm sorry it's not even a competition at this point. Randle's ability to rebound, post up, versatility to run a fastbreak, and ability to create his own combined far exceed Smart's ability to just play defense. Smart is a PG who can't handle the basketball, a SG who can't shoot, and a SF who is 6'4". He's a grit player that's willing to do anything to win. I respect that, but by far Randle is just a better player than Smart who I've never liked ever since we drafted him. It was always Randle for me and I will continue to stand by that.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2016, 02:34:47 PM »

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I'm sorry it's not even a competition at this point. Randle's ability to rebound, post up, versatility to run a fastbreak, and ability to create his own combined far exceed Smart's ability to just play defense. Smart is a PG who can't handle the basketball, a SG who can't shoot, and a SF who is 6'4". He's a grit player that's willing to do anything to win. I respect that, but by far Randle is just a better player than Smart who I've never liked ever since we drafted him. It was always Randle for me and I will continue to stand by that.

Hmm, I think I found the problem here.

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 03:03:08 PM »

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Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 03:24:30 PM »

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Still a chance randle ends up the next Zach Randolph while smart ends up the next Tony Allen.  I still have smart a hair ahead of him, but that's me being a homer.


I'd be surprised at either being as good as the established players, but Smart would seem a better bet. As far as raw talent though, Tony was a freak until the injuries. Who knows how good he could have been. Not a fan of Randle's game so far. Pretty much the same flaws he came into the NBA with.
Actually, I still think Randle is very much on pace to be a 20/10 Randolph type.  Remember that this is only his second season and last year he was coming off an injury.   

So I'd say the time to revisit it would actually be at the end of this season.   Smart might make a leap this year.  If he doesn't, I think the idea that Smart has star potential all but vanishes.  He regressed from season 1 to 2.  If he doesn't make major improvements in year 3, he'll be seen as a long-term bench role player.  Also, once we get a look at how Randle progresses in his second season, we'll have an idea of what he'll turn into.

Should be noted that both players look pretty good so far this season. 

Randle's per-36:  17.9 points, 10.8 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.3 steals, 1.1 blocks with 59% shooting, 16% from three and 64% fromt he line.

Smart's per-36:  12.2 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 0.6 steals, 1.2 blocks, 41% shooting, 33% from three, 60% from the line.

It's only been two games for Smart, though.  Let's see if he goes back to his historically bad shooting or is actually able to shoot over 40% this year.

Let's be honest here... if you ask an unbias basketball fan, Randle has already leapfrogged Smart. 

Re: So When Is It Time to Revisit the Smart / Randle Thing?
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 03:27:08 PM »

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Anyone else think that Randle has alot of Jeff Green in him? As in...very very inconsistent....

Smart has the clutch factor. Only thing holding Smart back is his injury issues, otherwise he's going to be a stud.