I was fine with the pick. Adding Dunn to a team that already had Bradley, Thomas, smart and Rozier made little sense. All the prospects from 3-8 were basically seen as interchangeable third class prospects. Marquis Chriss might end up better and he went 8th. But by playing with this collection of talent under this coaching, Jaylen has an opportunity to raise his developmental ceiling that the other prospects don't have. He seems to have a great mentality. So I'm pumped. He had a very encouraging debut performance last night. Hope the kid keeps making positive contributions, keeps his confidence up, and develops quickly. Only jerebko was worse than him on our team in preseason ... so hopefully last night's more efficient and effective Jaylen was a sign of steps forward.
You're supposed to be unbias so my question to you is honestly, did you get a chance to see Dunn play? I'm not a fan and isn't he older than Rozier? Chriss has upside but he is really lazy in terms of rebounding and kind of soft. Hield we both agree isn't great. Murray and Bender could be better than Brown.
Tbh though, not looking at the tiers, Brown looks to be on Ingram's level in terms of upside. I mean doesn't Ingram look slow to you?
Rozier, Marcus Smart and Kris Dunn were all born within a few days of each other. Smart is the oldest:
Smart : March 6, 1994
Rozier : March 17, 1994
Dunn : March 18, 1994
FWIW: Rozier's stat lines in college his freshman and sophomore years (ages 19 & 20) look overall just as good or better as Dunn's junior & senior years (ages 20 & 21). Rozier spent this last year learning to be a pro in the NBA-DL and the NBA (including real playoff minutes). Dunn spent it padding stats against younger schoolboys.
Dunn is physically bigger, and I think he's going to be a good player, but I was just NOT interested in drafting him other than for use in trade. We already have a very similar player in Rozier who is at this point well ahead of him in terms of being able to contribute at the NBA level while being only one day older.
Rozier was nowhere near as dynamic a playmaker on either side of the ball in college.
If you compare their age-20 seasons, yes, Dunn dished out about 4.5 more assists per game (7.5 on 34 mpg). But Rozier scored a couple more points per game. in similar minutes. Not surprising since at Louisville, Rozier played about half his time as the off-ball guard while Dunn was almost always the point at Providence.
Dunn's assists dropped slightly (6.5 in 33 mpg) and his points increased slightly (16.4) this last year at Providence.
In 472 minutes in the D-League last year (comparable to high-end NCAA competition) Rozier played mostly point and averaged 8.0 assists per game on 33.7 mpg while still scoring 19.4.
Other than Dunn getting more run at 'point' in college, I'm just not seeing a lot of difference in their numbers and personally I just don't see enough there to at all justify expending a #3 pick on someone when we already have another, similar player that we got at #16.
Dunn, imho, is simply not worth 13 picks higher than Rozier.