... Fall of Jimmy Young

[tarheelsxxiii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FR4MxzHIo

Post-game interview, and had he scored 50 points in this game, I'd still predict he's gone.  His affect is completely flat and seems to scream "I'm done" after difficult questions. We may have had our last Jimmy Young sighting. It's difficult -- while his tenure was enjoyable, I hope we can all wish him well as he rides off into the sunset (of Italy).

[Monkhouse]

Yeah... I disagree with you on that.

James Young is just a laid back dude, and that's how he talks.

I'm not worried about Hunter or Young that much, considering their the 15th man. But... While it is nice to have depth, I honestly believe Young has more potential, and maybe showing a little more signs albeit promising, but still frustrating that its taking so long. We can afford to have a project. We have Bradley, and Green, with Smart being able to weave in out as substitute 2.

[tarheelsxxiii]

With an overly laid-back game -- he's been a bankrupt man's version of Jeff Green.  He's 21 but hasn't given us much reason to believe he's driven / potentially mature enough to succeed.  Doesn't seem hungry, and I genuinely like the guy. 

[fantankerous]

Stupidest poll of all-time. 

[tarheelsxxiii]

Stupidest poll of all-time.

Lol, care to share more? Do you believe otherwise re: Jimmy Young?

[fantankerous]

Stupidest poll of all-time.

Lol, care to share more? Do you believe otherwise re: Jimmy Young?

On second thought, there care could be stupider polls.  It would take serious effort, though.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Stupidest poll of all-time.

Lol, care to share more? Do you believe otherwise re: Jimmy Young?

On second thought, there care could be stupider polls.  It would take serious effort, though.

TP. You're probably right, "there care," with serious effort.  Thanks for your contribution to a discussion re: Young.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Yeah... I disagree with you on that.

James Young is just a laid back dude, and that's how he talks.

I'm not worried about Hunter or Young that much, considering their the 15th man. But... While it is nice to have depth, I honestly believe Young has more potential, and maybe showing a little more signs albeit promising, but still frustrating that its taking so long. We can afford to have a project. We have Bradley, and Green, with Smart being able to weave in out as substitute 2.

I'm not sure what you disagree on, but I agree that Young still has more upside.  But sure, as you said, they're vying for the 15th spot -- upside isn't all that enticing, and RJ is a known-commodity to BS. 

[Monkhouse]

Yeah... I disagree with you on that.

James Young is just a laid back dude, and that's how he talks.

I'm not worried about Hunter or Young that much, considering their the 15th man. But... While it is nice to have depth, I honestly believe Young has more potential, and maybe showing a little more signs albeit promising, but still frustrating that its taking so long. We can afford to have a project. We have Bradley, and Green, with Smart being able to weave in out as substitute 2.

I'm not sure what you disagree on, but I agree that Young still has more upside.  But sure, as you said, they're vying for the 15th spot -- upside isn't all that enticing, and RJ is a known-commodity to BS.

You're judging how a guy sounds like coming off a final preseason game.

I mean... Setting his personality aside, you gotta give James Young some credit. He definitely worked harder to get the boards and showed by his actions, and not his words.

Hunter may be a coach's son, but he isn't exactly setting expectations any higher neither. They both should get cut, and we should bring back Perkins lol.

[alldaboston]

I wish that new CBA rule could come into play this year.

For those that haven't heard yet:

Two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League will offer teams the chance to add 16th and 17th roster spots, and pay players differently based upon their assignments in either the league’s minor league or as part of the parent team, league sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nba-players-association-push-closer-to-new-cba-224612785.html

[TheSundanceKid]

Let's assume that Young has more upside, which I don't believe in the first instance. How high is it and how long will it take to reach? I think it's safe to say he will max out as a rotation player on the level of Anthony Morrow, a 3 point specialist who can't really defend. Maybe he is slightly better because he develops a driving game and continues to improve defensively and becomes more like C Lee. At his current trajectory it will take another 3-4 years at least for him to reach that. By that point he will not be on a rookie contract. If he shows significant signs of reaching his potential by then someone else will overpay to get him on the off chance he becomes more. If he doesn't then we've wasted more time with him.

With RJ we have that extra year of control so we at least have more cost control while he develops.

Honestly in the end it doesn't matter because i don't think either is on the roster when they come off of their rookie contracts. You may keep Young because he could offer more "potential" in a trade but I firmly believe teams are past that with him

[tarheelsxxiii]

Yeah... I disagree with you on that.

James Young is just a laid back dude, and that's how he talks.

I'm not worried about Hunter or Young that much, considering their the 15th man. But... While it is nice to have depth, I honestly believe Young has more potential, and maybe showing a little more signs albeit promising, but still frustrating that its taking so long. We can afford to have a project. We have Bradley, and Green, with Smart being able to weave in out as substitute 2.

I'm not sure what you disagree on, but I agree that Young still has more upside.  But sure, as you said, they're vying for the 15th spot -- upside isn't all that enticing, and RJ is a known-commodity to BS.

You're judging how a guy sounds like coming off a final preseason game.

I mean... Setting his personality aside, you gotta give James Young some credit. He definitely worked harder to get the boards and showed by his actions, and not his words.

Hunter may be a coach's son, but he isn't exactly setting expectations any higher neither. They both should get cut, and we should bring back Perkins lol.

I'm not sure that this interview was following the last game, may have been second to last.

Obviously my comments were made tongue-in-cheek, but I do think personality is a serious factor regarding whether or not these prospects reach their potential. 

Wholly agree on cutting both and bringing back Perk

[tarheelsxxiii]

Let's assume that Young has more upside, which I don't believe in the first instance. How high is it and how long will it take to reach? I think it's safe to say he will max out as a rotation player on the level of Anthony Morrow, a 3 point specialist who can't really defend. Maybe he is slightly better because he develops a driving game and continues to improve defensively and becomes more like C Lee. At his current trajectory it will take another 3-4 years at least for him to reach that. By that point he will not be on a rookie contract. If he shows significant signs of reaching his potential by then someone else will overpay to get him on the off chance he becomes more. If he doesn't then we've wasted more time with him.

With RJ we have that extra year of control so we at least have more cost control while he develops.

Honestly in the end it doesn't matter because i don't think either is on the roster when they come off of their rookie contracts. You may keep Young because he could offer more "potential" in a trade but I firmly believe teams are past that with him

I agree on all accounts.  I'm not sure he has more upside either, comment was based primarily on age, but I'd prefer to keep Hunter of the two (though doubt either becomes more than even a rotation player).  Doubt either have much, if any, value around the league as well.

[kraidstar]

I wish that new CBA rule could come into play this year.

For those that haven't heard yet:

Two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League will offer teams the chance to add 16th and 17th roster spots, and pay players differently based upon their assignments in either the league’s minor league or as part of the parent team, league sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nba-players-association-push-closer-to-new-cba-224612785.html

TP for the find, that is good news, could help alleviate the roster crunch next year when we're presumably adding Zizic, Yabs, Nader, and Brooklyn '17.

[jambr380]

I wish that new CBA rule could come into play this year.

For those that haven't heard yet:

Two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League will offer teams the chance to add 16th and 17th roster spots, and pay players differently based upon their assignments in either the league’s minor league or as part of the parent team, league sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nba-players-association-push-closer-to-new-cba-224612785.html

TP for the find, that is good news, could help alleviate the roster crunch next year when we're presumably adding Zizic, Yabs, Nader, and Brooklyn '17.

Tp to allda for the find and kraid for responding exactly how I was going to respond. It's a bummer we can't keep them all this year, but it's unlikely Hunter/Young become a superstar.