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Of the rotational players, who is the least versatile?

Isaiah Thomas
16 (36.4%)
Avery Bradley
5 (11.4%)
Jae Crowder
0 (0%)
Kelly Olynyk
3 (6.8%)
Al Horford
0 (0%)
Marcus Smart
2 (4.5%)
Terry Rozier
1 (2.3%)
Jaylen Brown
1 (2.3%)
Jonas Jerebko
3 (6.8%)
Amir Johnson
13 (29.5%)

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Celtic's Least Versatile Player?
« on: September 27, 2016, 01:06:40 PM »

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CBS loves versatility, on offense and defense. One of the few facts of how he coaches this team.
That being the case, who would you say is the least versatile player in the Celtics rotation?

I voted for IT4, mostly because of his vulnerability on defense. But i leave the definition of "versatility" for you to interpret, as it's equally valuable on offense as on defense.


side note: I would've voted/included Zeller but I dont think he'll get many minutes.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2016, 01:20:02 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2016, 01:35:19 PM »

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I actually think I have to go with Bradley.  He can defend both the 1 and the 2, but on the offensive side of the ball he is strictly a shooter (with some backdoor cuts, too).  He's great (elite, even) at what he does, but he's not really versatile
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2016, 02:04:00 PM »

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IT4 may be limited in what he can do on defense, but his extremely wide repertoire of offensive skills makes a vote for him seem kind of silly to me.   He's shown he can create points in a wide variety of ways including playing both on and off the ball, with outside shooting, with attacks inside, in transition, by dishing assists, by creating foul pressure on the defense, making free throws, etc., etc.  He's even proven to be a powerful decoy - sucking huge amounts of attention by the defense.  The only reason THAT role hasn't resulted in points is that his (remaining few healthy) teammates sucked at hitting shots off kick-outs.

He's easily as versatile on offense as you could reasonably expect out of any player.   

And while he's not an elite defender, he's shown that he can play his role as Brad as asked him as part of a very, very good defensive team.  And that role has asked him to not only defend point guards, but just as often if not more he's asked to guard much bigger players so that Brad can put Avery on the point.  And for the most part, that has worked.

I'm sorry.  But I think it makes no sense to vote IT4 down in, 'versatility' compared to some of our other players.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2016, 02:23:37 PM »

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Young and Zeller.  Hunter can supposedly shoot and pass but not do anything else.  Bradley is the least versatile among our good players I guess.

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2016, 03:47:16 PM »

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The least versatile would be the player whose value is restricted mainly to one side of the ball and who can only defend one position.  So, Thomas, who is limited but who is very good at the things he can do well, or Zeller are not that versatile.  Or you could go with James Young, who could in theory guard both wing positions and has the tools to be useful on both offense and defense, but actually has value on neither side of the ball and perhaps can defend zero positions.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2016, 05:09:24 PM »

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Young and Zeller.  Hunter can supposedly shoot and pass but not do anything else.  Bradley is the least versatile among our good players I guess.
Bradley is more versatile than Smart because Bradley actually contributes significantly on offense.

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2016, 05:15:46 PM »

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I'd say its gotta be IT or Zeller. Everyone else seems like they can play multiple positions on both sides of the ball.

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I also see versatility different. IT is very versatile to me. He does what he does and is a scorer off of other guys. But he does so many things. He isn't a specialist.  I consider that the opposite of versatility. Kyle Korver for example is not the most versatile guy.

I think right now it's Gerald Green or james young which interesting you have neither as choices.   Is Green a rotation player or not though? I get young isn't.

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2016, 05:30:28 PM »

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I also see versatility different. IT is very versatile to me. He does what he does and is a scorer off of other guys. But he does so many things. He isn't a specialist.  I consider that the opposite of versatility. Kyle Korver for example is not the most versatile guy.

I think right now it's Gerald Green or james young which interesting you have neither as choices.   Is Green a rotation player or not though? I get young isn't.

On paper Green should be able to play the 2, 3 on offense and switch on most guys in the pick and roll. I'd say that's versatile.

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2016, 06:02:08 PM »

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Yeah Green isn't a one trick pony. HE's gotten better as a player too. We have  a lot of versatile players.  Most of our guys are.   I think Green is least though.

Out of those guys they are all versatile. Bradley is kind of what he is but he's versatile. He has his shots though.

I think bradley is probably the least. He's primarily a sg and just is what he is. He's a good defender and can play some sf though.  Isaiah is also what he is.  he's our best  scorer though.

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2016, 06:08:15 PM »

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Young and Zeller.  Hunter can supposedly shoot and pass but not do anything else.  Bradley is the least versatile among our good players I guess.
Bradley is more versatile than Smart because Bradley actually contributes significantly on offense.

That's not what versatile means... Smart is incredibly more versatile on both sides of the ball than Bradley. Smart is already a better ball-handler and passer than Bradley, and he has quite a bit of height and weight on Bradley, which allows him to play 1-3 (in small-ball units) on both sides of the ball. Bradley is almost strictly a two.

But I'd have to say zeller. Pretty one-dimensional. Young just sucks. He'd be versatile if he was any good.

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2016, 06:09:58 PM »

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Though I guess of those actually listed above it has to be one of IT or AB. Everyone else is pretty versatile.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2016, 06:46:11 PM »

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Bradley.

He's a perimeter-oriented 2 on offense, and he's a ball-hawking 1 on defense.


Can't create for others, can't really get inside or draw free throws.  Not a guy you want switching around too much.  Really, really good at what he does, but limited beyond that.
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Would someone do me a favor and please define "versatile" here? What I am seeing are answers that are all over the place and people talking past one another.
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