Convince me that the Nets are gonna be good/average this year.

[Donoghus]

Can we please get this thread back on track?  Enough of the back & forth bickering, borderline personal attacks, & "look at me" nonsense.  Otherwise, it will be locked.  We also don't need it going across multiple threads, either.

[celticsclay]

The only thing funny about it is that this forum is so obsessed with me they are still talking about some blatantly obvious reverse jinxing comments a year after I made them.   They should change this site name to the LarBrd33 Blog.  Get over it.  It's hilarious that anyone could be thick enough to think that me, a lifelong Celtic fan, is somehow upset that Brooklyn (who were widely believed to be a bottom team) ended up finishing in the bottom 5.  Fact:  On November 21st, Celtics fans obnoxiously chanted "Brooklyn Draft Pick" at the tail end of a blow-out, angering the basketball gods and stirring an imbalance in the force.   Two days later, the Nets destroyed the Celtics in route to a 111-101 victory.  This proved to be a pivotal moment for the Nets 2015-16 season.  It caused a huge momentum swing that they rode all the way to a 42 win season.   But it didn't.  The reason?  My incessant pessimism and staunch wet blanketery brought balance to the basketball force and prevented a Brooklyn resurgence.  I effectively countered the fan-chanting jinx.  You're welcome, Celtic fans.   I take full credit for Jaylen Brown.

This pitiful retreat to "I was just kidding" is weak.  I can understand if your ego is smarting about being so wrong about so many things, but just man up and accept it.

Mike

my only issue with lar is that he words his predictions in ambiguous ways intentionally

Which is totally fine on its own


But to then pretend you were right absurd. Or childish if it's only to get a rise out of people


If you're going to brag over and over again about being right, then make an actual prediction


"This team will do well if blah blah".   "They can do this if they do that".

You're wrong sometimes, and you're right sometimes. Or, you're nothing all times because you're too terrified to actually make a prediction and potentially be wrong


Enough with the out clauses

Here's the truth of it.  About 99% of the time this stuff gets brought up by other people who refuse to let things go.   It stems from frustrations they have with themselves.  I don't blame people for being angry at themselves for being wrong constantly on this forum.  I've built up a decade's worth of goodwill from being on the accurate side of thousands of debates on this forum.  This infuriates folks who argued that Gerald Green would be a star, or that Rajon Rondo was better than Chris Paul, or that Dwight Howard wouldn't be traded, or that Boston wouldn't tank, or that Walker/Pierce could win a title, or that Tony Allen would be a star, or that Orien Greene would be a star, or that Kedrick Brown would be a star, or that Brandon Hunter would be a star, etc.   I've been here for over a decade.  I've been right literally thousands of times on this forum.  It's almost amazing how consistently delusional the majority of this forum has been.   The blatant homerism does not represent any version of reality.  I've been hated on for years for presenting valid observations about a team that quite honestly has only really been a true contender for about 3.5 of the past 25 years.  That's just the facts.  You present some tempered expectations and people here lose their minds over it and call you a "hater".  For some folks here, they long since lost the ability to think rationally about the comments I've made on this forum.  They just assume that if I don't admit Paul Pierce is better than LeBron, it means I'm a Philly fan (which is something Eddie has literally claimed numerous times on this forum).

Based on the amount of times I've been right, I'm basically playing with house money.   And that drives some people batty.  So they go digging through my catalog of awesomeness to find things they perceive as "wrong" and then trumpet it every time I make any comment on this forum.  You basically have a bunch of poor man BballTims trying to negate every comment I make (despite the fact that more often than not, they are true) by taking things I've said out of context and railroading actual conversations by petulantly whining about things I've said in the past.   It adds nothing to this forum when people do this.   Suggesting that I thought Nik Stauskas or Anthony Bennett was a star is a flat out lie, but these clowns keep trumpeting it in forum post after forum post.   My opinions on the 76ers continue to be more accurate than the vast majority of people on this forum, yet you have people who twist my opinion on that team and try to claim "victory" based on Philly's "failure" - which completely misses the point of my view on the 76ers.

A lot of it is just these people who label me a "troll" for not agreeing with them that Rajon Rondo was a superstar - and then go out of their way to troll me in every thread, because they think they are trolling a troll - not realizing that my opinions on those topics were actually entirely accurate.

When this stuff gets brought up, it's usually because I'm having to defend my previous views to people who can't come to terms with their own warped views.

You'll notice, I don't generally do this to other people.  You don't see me saying "tankcity! said blah blah blah blah in the past so ignore everything he's saying".  Aside from the rare instances of the Huey, Dewey and Louie trolls who follow me from thread to thread, I typically look at every comment someone makes, try to ignore which specific individual is making that comment, and respond to the text if I think I have a viewpoint worth sharing.  Most people here have been wrong pretty often, and yet I'll continue to ignore that and consider their opinions as-is without trumpeting up out of context previous statements.  I generally don't even remember what specific people have said, because I don't look at the username when I'm considering a viewpoint.

Then of course, I generally don't take this forum all that seriously in the first place.  I often say things that are obviously intended as exaggerated hyperbole or a joke to anyone who understands the concept of humor or "reverse jinxing".  If I say I think Dwight and Nash's addition to the Lakers means they will definitely go 82-0, only a fool would think I actually believed that.   It's pretty clear I didn't actually believe the Lakers would go 82-0.   And yet you have people who take these quotes at face value and trumpet them around in unrelated threads out of context, because they have an inferiority complex. 

If you're tired of hearing about my "predictions" about the Nets, place your anger towards the fanboys who use my quotes in their forum signatures and act as my personal hate entourage of anti-Flava Flavs..   I should mail Celticsclay a giant clock necklace to wear around his neck for the amount of times he's followed me around from thread the thread hollaring "Yeaaaaah Booooyyy!!" and "Ohh no not a Noootha one!!" everytime someone says something vaguely negative about me.   

In-fact, I went ahead and made him an avatar of Flav wearing a Celtic jersey:  http://i.imgur.com/oDa9ic9.gif



By all means, other Flavs can feel free to use that avatar as well.  They are already parroting each other, they might as well share the same avatar. 

Bottom line is, as long as these flavs keep obnoxiously misrepresenting me and wasting time on a Celtic forum "calling me out" as opposed to discussing the Celtics, I'll respond accordingly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoL3uQbPoc

edit... never mind

[LarBrd33]

I'd like to put this to rest and say that I, for one, am thrilled that Brooklyn's health and lack of depth prevented them from returning to the playoffs for the 3rd straight year.  There's no "crow" to be eaten about my prior worries about the Nets.  If there was, I think it would taste a lot like Jaylen Brown.

I'm hopeful that the same thing happens this year.  Since OP wants things to worry about with the Nets this season, worry about this...   Brooklyn lost their starting PG at the start of last season.  By default, Jeremy Lin is a significant improvement to that.   Also, worry about the fact that Thad Young might be slightly overrated in general and if Brooklyn can get some decent defensive minutes at the PF position, it might not matter all that much (though it's important to note that Brooklyn's run in 2014-15 came with the addition to Thad, so his lose might be important).  Brook Lopez, if healthy, is still an outstanding and potentially underrated offensive center.  If you surround Lopez with defenders and shooters, and if guys like RHJ make a leap (he was their best player in advanced stats on both ends of the court and yet he missed the majority of the season to injury), they could do enough damage to sneak out of the bottom 5.  Keep in mind that this is a team that has no incentive to lose games this year or next.  So while they lack in assets, you can't completely rule out the possibility of them making some short-sighted additions that might help them remain competitive. 

Really though, even as a self-proclaimed pessimist and avid reverse-jinxer, I'm having a hard time really convincing myself of a scenario in which Brooklyn vastly exceeds expectations.  They still lack depth.   I feel dirty admitting that though.  So I'm going to go back to saying that I fully guarantee they'll go 82-0 if Brook Lopez misses the entire season to injury.  That's a LarBrd33 Guarantee.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Narcisstic personality traits are reaching unprecedented levels on CsBlog lately.

I call for a vote on the ability to give oneself TPs.  Fair enough?

[jpotter33]

I'd reach through this computer and hand you a cold beer if I could, Kraidstar.

You'll have to settle for a TP instead.

Funnily enough, I just opened one right before I read your post. It's in my hand now. Very cold and very good. Must have picked up your good vibes through the ether.

Either that or I am just an alcoholic.

Honestly, it's funny that basically every single thing you quoted proves me right, but people will take it out of context and misinterpret it to serve their little pathetic agendas.

Dude whats up with your new icon photo.  Lol

Ah yes.  I know everyone adored the iconic LarBrd33 avatar gif.  It had been in reference to Lord Chad Ford and his holy draft tiers which come straight from the basketball gods themselves. 

But unfortunately, yesterday CelticPride2016 suggested I remove the avatar.

So respecting his opinion, I removed it.  Long gone is the memorable iconic avatar of old:



In replace of that, I've changed it to a new less-offensive version:



Is that OK? Good. I want you to be very happy. It’s very important to me

You're pretty eccentric, brah. Sometimes I wonder if you're really like this in person or if this is primarily an online shtick.

It might be hard for you to believe, but I'm actually one of the most popular people in Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital

BTW, I like the non-LarBrd33 quote in your signature.

Sarcasm?

Because I actually think in many ways you and Nietzsche are a lot alike, and shunning "the herd" or "tribe" is totally you, which is basically a characteristic of non-conformity (a trait I also share). He was also known as being very eccentric, and he was basically a philosopher troll lol

Though he also went crazy due to a syphillis infection and was in love with his sister, so hopefully that's where the likeness ends.   

[LarBrd33]

I'd reach through this computer and hand you a cold beer if I could, Kraidstar.

You'll have to settle for a TP instead.

Funnily enough, I just opened one right before I read your post. It's in my hand now. Very cold and very good. Must have picked up your good vibes through the ether.

Either that or I am just an alcoholic.

Honestly, it's funny that basically every single thing you quoted proves me right, but people will take it out of context and misinterpret it to serve their little pathetic agendas.

Dude whats up with your new icon photo.  Lol

Ah yes.  I know everyone adored the iconic LarBrd33 avatar gif.  It had been in reference to Lord Chad Ford and his holy draft tiers which come straight from the basketball gods themselves. 

But unfortunately, yesterday CelticPride2016 suggested I remove the avatar.

So respecting his opinion, I removed it.  Long gone is the memorable iconic avatar of old:



In replace of that, I've changed it to a new less-offensive version:



Is that OK? Good. I want you to be very happy. It’s very important to me

You're pretty eccentric, brah. Sometimes I wonder if you're really like this in person or if this is primarily an online shtick.

It might be hard for you to believe, but I'm actually one of the most popular people in Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital

BTW, I like the non-LarBrd33 quote in your signature.

Sarcasm?

Because I actually think in many ways you and Nietzsche are a lot alike, and shunning "the herd" or "tribe" is totally you, which is basically a characteristic of non-conformity (a trait I also share). He was also known as being very eccentric, and he was basically a philosopher troll lol

Though he also went crazy due to a syphillis infection and was in love with his sister, so hopefully that's where the likeness ends.   

Not intended as sarcasm.  I agree with you.

Back on topic, I'll add an improbable leap from Bojan Bogdanovic as another possible unreasonable concern.  He scored 29 points in his last game and shot 38% from three for the season. 

[tankcity!]

The only thing funny about it is that this forum is so obsessed with me they are still talking about some blatantly obvious reverse jinxing comments a year after I made them.   They should change this site name to the LarBrd33 Blog.  Get over it.  It's hilarious that anyone could be thick enough to think that me, a lifelong Celtic fan, is somehow upset that Brooklyn (who were widely believed to be a bottom team) ended up finishing in the bottom 5.  Fact:  On November 21st, Celtics fans obnoxiously chanted "Brooklyn Draft Pick" at the tail end of a blow-out, angering the basketball gods and stirring an imbalance in the force.   Two days later, the Nets destroyed the Celtics in route to a 111-101 victory.  This proved to be a pivotal moment for the Nets 2015-16 season.  It caused a huge momentum swing that they rode all the way to a 42 win season.   But it didn't.  The reason?  My incessant pessimism and staunch wet blanketery brought balance to the basketball force and prevented a Brooklyn resurgence.  I effectively countered the fan-chanting jinx.  You're welcome, Celtic fans.   I take full credit for Jaylen Brown.

This pitiful retreat to "I was just kidding" is weak.  I can understand if your ego is smarting about being so wrong about so many things, but just man up and accept it.

Mike

my only issue with lar is that he words his predictions in ambiguous ways intentionally

Which is totally fine on its own


But to then pretend you were right absurd. Or childish if it's only to get a rise out of people


If you're going to brag over and over again about being right, then make an actual prediction


"This team will do well if blah blah".   "They can do this if they do that".

You're wrong sometimes, and you're right sometimes. Or, you're nothing all times because you're too terrified to actually make a prediction and potentially be wrong


Enough with the out clauses

Here's the truth of it.  About 99% of the time this stuff gets brought up by other people who refuse to let things go.   It stems from frustrations they have with themselves.  I don't blame people for being angry at themselves for being wrong constantly on this forum.  I've built up a decade's worth of goodwill from being on the accurate side of thousands of debates on this forum.  This infuriates folks who argued that Gerald Green would be a star, or that Rajon Rondo was better than Chris Paul, or that Dwight Howard wouldn't be traded, or that Boston wouldn't tank, or that Walker/Pierce could win a title, or that Tony Allen would be a star, or that Orien Greene would be a star, or that Kedrick Brown would be a star, or that Brandon Hunter would be a star, etc.   I've been here for over a decade.  I've been right literally thousands of times on this forum.  It's almost amazing how consistently delusional the majority of this forum has been.   The blatant homerism does not represent any version of reality.  I've been hated on for years for presenting valid observations about a team that quite honestly has only really been a true contender for about 3.5 of the past 25 years.  That's just the facts.  You present some tempered expectations and people here lose their minds over it and call you a "hater".  For some folks here, they long since lost the ability to think rationally about the comments I've made on this forum.  They just assume that if I don't admit Paul Pierce is better than LeBron, it means I'm a Philly fan (which is something Eddie has literally claimed numerous times on this forum).

Based on the amount of times I've been right, I'm basically playing with house money.   And that drives some people batty.  So they go digging through my catalog of awesomeness to find things they perceive as "wrong" and then trumpet it every time I make any comment on this forum.  You basically have a bunch of poor man BballTims trying to negate every comment I make (despite the fact that more often than not, they are true) by taking things I've said out of context and railroading actual conversations by petulantly whining about things I've said in the past.   It adds nothing to this forum when people do this.   Suggesting that I thought Nik Stauskas or Anthony Bennett was a star is a flat out lie, but these clowns keep trumpeting it in forum post after forum post.   My opinions on the 76ers continue to be more accurate than the vast majority of people on this forum, yet you have people who twist my opinion on that team and try to claim "victory" based on Philly's "failure" - which completely misses the point of my view on the 76ers.

A lot of it is just these people who label me a "troll" for not agreeing with them that Rajon Rondo was a superstar - and then go out of their way to troll me in every thread, because they think they are trolling a troll - not realizing that my opinions on those topics were actually entirely accurate.

When this stuff gets brought up, it's usually because I'm having to defend my previous views to people who can't come to terms with their own warped views.

You'll notice, I don't generally do this to other people.  You don't see me saying "tankcity! said blah blah blah blah in the past so ignore everything he's saying".  Aside from the rare instances of the Huey, Dewey and Louie trolls who follow me from thread to thread, I typically look at every comment someone makes, try to ignore which specific individual is making that comment, and respond to the text if I think I have a viewpoint worth sharing.  Most people here have been wrong pretty often, and yet I'll continue to ignore that and consider their opinions as-is without trumpeting up out of context previous statements.  I generally don't even remember what specific people have said, because I don't look at the username when I'm considering a viewpoint.

Then of course, I generally don't take this forum all that seriously in the first place.  I often say things that are obviously intended as exaggerated hyperbole or a joke to anyone who understands the concept of humor or "reverse jinxing".  If I say I think Dwight and Nash's addition to the Lakers means they will definitely go 82-0, only a fool would think I actually believed that.   It's pretty clear I didn't actually believe the Lakers would go 82-0.   And yet you have people who take these quotes at face value and trumpet them around in unrelated threads out of context, because they have an inferiority complex. 

If you're tired of hearing about my "predictions" about the Nets, place your anger towards the fanboys who use my quotes in their forum signatures and act as my personal hate entourage of anti-Flava Flavs..   I should mail Celticsclay a giant clock necklace to wear around his neck for the amount of times he's followed me around from thread the thread hollaring "Yeaaaaah Booooyyy!!" and "Ohh no not a Noootha one!!" everytime someone says something vaguely negative about me.   

In-fact, I went ahead and made him an avatar of Flav wearing a Celtic jersey:  http://i.imgur.com/oDa9ic9.gif



By all means, other Flavs can feel free to use that avatar as well.  They are already parroting each other, they might as well share the same avatar. 

Bottom line is, as long as these flavs keep obnoxiously misrepresenting me and wasting time on a Celtic forum "calling me out" as opposed to discussing the Celtics, I'll respond accordingly:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoL3uQbPoc

First, I rarley post on this forum, so I def don't follow you like you're claiming. Second, I own up to being wrong, unlike you. And I wasn't the one who brought up the brooklyn thing, I never bring it up actually. I'm just stating the facts about you lying about your view. At the end of the day, you were wrong, just like I was wrong about Marcus Smart. At least I can own up to it.

[positivitize]

Can we please get this thread back on track?  Enough of the back & forth bickering, borderline personal attacks, & "look at me" nonsense.  Otherwise, it will be locked.  We also don't need it going across multiple threads, either.

LB's forum fame/infamy is for another thread please.

[Celtics4ever]

I don't think they will be that good, as a team.   They might be better than last year though so LA may pick first.

[slamtheking]

They didn't really make any major additions this summer.  Unless Anthony Bennett ends up a superstar, they should be really bad again this year.   The only thing to be worried about is them somehow sneaking in like 32 wins and playing out of the bottom 5. 

hmm, but isn't this the same roster (less Thad) that you proclaimed to be a playoff contender last year?

I never said that.

oh, but you did. numerous times.  I recall because i was running a thread that tracked the picks through the season and joined in a thread that discussed the likelihood of the Nets pick being bad.  you were the only one advocating that the Nets would not be giving us a lottery pick at the end of the year because they'd make the playoffs.