« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2016, 03:02:33 PM »
He sounds annoyed. He clearly wants out. Tough situation for him... He's one of the best defensive prospects in the league. He has the potential to anchor a team's defense. And yet he's stuck in a situation where he might be the third string center on a team that should still be in the lotto next season. You can't blame him for being salty. Especially if it cuts into his minutes and impacts his free agency options next summer. He wants minutes so he can get paid.
TP. That's what many of us have been saying this whole time, though I think they ultimately like Noel more than Okafor and would give him more minutes than Okafor. However, it looks like Noel is going to force their hand to trade him over Okafor anyways with all of this talk.
I don't blame Noel for being frustrated but that doesn't mean Philly "needs" to make a trade. They will almost certainly move someone when the time is right, but there is no gun to their head forcing them to take pennies on the dollar right now. Despite how frustrated Noel is, it's probably still best for Philly to wait and see how things shake out. If the offers are weak, they should just hang onto the guys - regardless of how salty Noel is. That's what a lot of fans fail to understand when they come up with their silly lopsided trade offers. 15 mins out of Noel off the bench is better than trading him for a late 1st or a d-leaguer who will get 15 mins off the bench.
Disagree. Not only does this pretty much screw Philly with agents, who will not appreciate them screwing over Noel in a contract year, but it's obviously just going to decrease his trade value even more by (a) him barely playing and (b) being a locker room disturbance.
You can say they should hold out for a better option, but with the way things are going, it doesn't make any sense that the offers would go help with him hardly playing, having less time left on his contract, and him becoming a locker room issue.
You are assuming he barely plays, which I find highly unlikely. I mean Philly has already gone on the record saying Embiid will not play back to backs and will be on a heavy minutes restriction (that is if he even manages to stay healthy all year). I'm guessing Noel will play at least 24 minutes a night and would probably guess it more in the 30 minute range.
Him being a lockerroom disturbance is on him and will only hurt his free agent value.
Where are these minutes coming from? Is Okafor not playing? There won't be any minutes at PF for him because of Simmons and you can't even bump Simmons to SF (which would be a bad idea anyway) because Saric is there. And Saric should really be playing some minutes at PF himself.
Noel is fighting 2 other guys who can only play center for 48 minutes a night.
2 of those 3 guys will play a fair amount of time at PF. Simmons will play a lot at SF.
There are 7,872 minutes available from the PF and C position. I'd guess the end minutes are something like this:
Noel - 2300 - 75 games - 31 minutes
Okafor - 2300 - 75 games - 31 minutes
Embiid - 1440 - 60 games - 24 minutes
Simmons - 1600 (rest of time at SF) - 77 games - 21 minutes
and that still leaves 232 minutes
How is Simmons going to play most of his time at SF when they've got Saric, Covington, and Grant? All are small forwards who should be getting minutes at PF as well.
And that's before we even get into how unsuited Simmons is to play SF,
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