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SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« on: September 12, 2016, 09:54:22 AM »

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http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings

One of those lists they'll be updating throughout the week, so far they've listed 100-51.

It looks like the Celtics will end up with 5 of the top 100, as 3 players have been listed so far, and I'm sure Isaiah and Horford are in the unreleased top 50.

86. Amir Johnson
72. Avery Bradley (behind Korver, Danny Green, Redick, Beal)
53. Jae Crowder (behind Parsons)

Nice jump for Bradley and Crowder, neither of whom were ranked last year, while Amir is up 3 spots despite a decrease in minutes.  A big jump coming for Isaiah as he was #88 last year, and Horford was #21, let's see where they land this year.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM »

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Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2016, 02:18:06 PM »

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Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

Rudy Gay was #80.  Personally, I think you're missing Brook Lopez, Khris Middleton, and Derrick Favors.  Also I know everyone's down on guys like Love and Dwight Howard, but surely they're still top 100 players, and since they're not 100-51...  Does Bosh get ranked?  Making room for everyone but Bosh, I have to drop some guys on your list.

No way on Gorgui Dieng or Otto Porter, ditto for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope as no way he could be ranked ahead of Reggie Jackson (#54), but not sure who else I drop.  Rondo's probably next off the list.

I'd say LeBron still comes in at #1.  TP for taking a stab at it.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2016, 02:39:08 PM »

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is it me or is there a GIGANTIC drop off in talent from say 10 years ago?
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2016, 02:40:15 PM »

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Quote from: bdm860 on September 12, 2016, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

Rudy Gay was #80.  Personally, I think you're missing Brook Lopez, Khris Middleton, and Derrick Favors.  Also I know everyone's down on guys like Love and Dwight Howard, but surely they're still top 100 players, and since they're not 100-51...  Does Bosh get ranked?  Making room for everyone but Bosh, I have to drop some guys on your list.

No way on Gorgui Dieng or Otto Porter, ditto for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope as no way he could be ranked ahead of Reggie Jackson (#54), but not sure who else I drop.  Rondo's probably next off the list.

I'd say LeBron still comes in at #1.  TP for taking a stab at it.

I knew I probably missed some shoo ins.  Howard, Love, Favors, Middleton and Lopez should all be on the list.  Thanks for the input. 

I actually tried it without having any stats lists in front of me to see how I'd do.  Clearly, I missed some.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 02:46:45 PM »

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Quote from: perks-a-beast on September 12, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
is it me or is there a GIGANTIC drop off in talent from say 10 years ago?
less talent from bigs, but way better smalls.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 03:25:55 PM »

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Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo ?
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

All bold. should be lower
All underline.  should be higher

Lebron is still the best player in the league
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2016, 03:51:53 PM »

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Quote from: triboy16f on September 12, 2016, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo ?
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

All bold. should be lower
All underline.  should be higher

Lebron is still the best player in the league

Whoa!!  Kawhi third?!!

Bold.  I thought folks would say I had him too high at 4th.  Looking forward to seeing how SI ranks all these guys.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2016, 03:55:15 PM »

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Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: triboy16f on September 12, 2016, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo ?
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

All bold. should be lower
All underline.  should be higher

Lebron is still the best player in the league

Whoa!!  Kawhi third?!!

Bold.  I thought folks would say I had him too high at 4th.  Looking forward to seeing how SI ranks all these guys.

If I had to choose a player to build around -  RW  or Leonard.   Well you tell me

To me this ranking should be based on the best player to build a fresh team around.  From scratch.   
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2016, 04:00:01 PM »

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Quote from: perks-a-beast on September 12, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
is it me or is there a GIGANTIC drop off in talent from say 10 years ago?

It's you.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2016, 04:02:10 PM »

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Quote from: triboy16f on September 12, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: triboy16f on September 12, 2016, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo ?
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

All bold. should be lower
All underline.  should be higher

Lebron is still the best player in the league

Whoa!!  Kawhi third?!!

Bold.  I thought folks would say I had him too high at 4th.  Looking forward to seeing how SI ranks all these guys.

If I had to choose a player to build around -  RW  or Leonard.   Well you tell me

To me this ranking should be based on the best player to build a fresh team around.  From scratch.

I thought it was attempting to predict who would be the best players for next season.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2016, 05:06:43 PM »

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If Lebron isn't #1 it's just silly.
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Re: SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2017
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2016, 05:38:14 PM »

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Quote from: triboy16f on September 12, 2016, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
Here's my shot at guessing the top 50:

1.  Steph Curry
2.  Lebron James
3.  Russell Westbrook
4.  Kawhi Leonard
5.  Kevin Durant
6.  James Harden
7.  Paul George
8.  Anthony Davis
9.  Chris Paul
10.  Damian Lillard
11.  Demarcus Cousins
12.  Draymond Green
13.  Blake Griffin
14.  Jimmy Butler
15.  Deandre Jordan
16.  Kyrie Irving
17.  Andre Drunmond
18.  Isaiah Thomas
19.  Giannis Antetokounmpo
20.  John Wall
21.  Karl Towns
22.  Paul Millsap
23.  Al Horford
24.  Lamarcus Aldridge
25.  Gordon Hayward
26.  Kyle Lowry
27.  Kemba Walker
28.  Rudy Gobert
29.  Mike Conley
30.  Marc Gasol
31.  CJ McCollum
32.  Hassan Whiteside
33.  Klay Thompson
34.  Demar Derozan
35.  Carmelo Anthony
36.  Dwayne Wade
37.  Serge Ibaka
38.  Jrue Holiday
39.  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
40.  Tyreke Evans
41.  Danilo Galinari
42.  Pau Gasol
43.  Gorgui Dieng
44.  Otto Porter
45.  Tony Parker
46.  Dennis Schroeder
47.  Rajon Rondo ?
48.  Andre Iguodala
49.  Harrison Barnes
50.  Rudy Gay

All bold. should be lower
All underline.  should be higher

Lebron is still the best player in the league

Not on a nightly basis, he isn't.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2016, 08:45:42 PM »

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Quote from: dannyboy35 on September 12, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
If Lebron isn't #1 it's just silly.

Rewatch the finals.  How did curry perform vs lebron?

And the same story year prior
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2016, 09:24:27 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on September 12, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: perks-a-beast on September 12, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
is it me or is there a GIGANTIC drop off in talent from say 10 years ago?
less talent from bigs, but way better smalls.
Disagree.  Drop off on smalls.  HUGE drop off on bigs
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