Woj: Sixers plan on moving one of Noel or Okafor "eventually"

[Denis998]

Mention smart's historically bad shooting:check

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The fact is that Marcus Smart's pro 36 shows that he is a historically bad shooter the in-home process to trust is. Sam Hinkie died Jaylen Brown's pro-36 would not exceed #10 in better good draft.  In the 2014 draft, the eye test suggests that it is no better than rookie Gerald Green's confidence in for our sins. Tier Jahlil Smart greater tier 4 Brown.  Jahlil Okafor is better than any perspective we have on our team, his Per-36 is not historically bad. Joel Embiid has a historically large Per-36.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.



Brb, rebooting.

I agree.

[GratefulCs]

Mention smart's historically bad shooting:check

Mention per 36: check

Mention brown was WIDELY consodered blah blah blah around the draft: check

Baiting: check

Larbrd bot activated: check

Edit: we're missing some new dingers!

Get em going LB!

The fact is that Marcus Smart's pro 36 shows that he is a historically bad shooter the in-home process to trust is. Sam Hinkie died Jaylen Brown's pro-36 would not exceed #10 in better good draft.  In the 2014 draft, the eye test suggests that it is no better than rookie Gerald Green's confidence in for our sins. Tier Jahlil Smart greater tier 4 Brown.  Jahlil Okafor is better than any perspective we have on our team, his Per-36 is not historically bad. Joel Embiid has a historically large Per-36.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.  Shirley Temple.  French Fries.



Brb, rebooting.

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[Moranis]

Looks like Okafor is getting a bit more comfortable.  Pretty good offensive game against the Raptors and Valanciunas was kept mostly in check.

[ssspence]

Zach Lowe -- not an Okafor fan:

The same old Jahlil Okafor

Thank the basketball gods for Joel Embiid, and may they keep watch over Ben Simmons' foot. Okafor stagnating was predictable, and not some indicator that he's doomed to disappoint; he's only 20, the team around him is still bad, and he's surely depressed scrounging backup minutes behind the next big thing.

But it's OK to worry a little that his warts look just as unsightly as they did during his haywire rookie season. Okafor is still a black hole in the post. He's rebounding like a wing player, again. He's constantly late on rotations, and worse yet, when he realizes he's late, he doesn't exactly respond with urgency.

Okafor is never going to be a stopper, but he should be better than this. He's a smart player with good hands, vision, and enough athleticism to get his ass moving on defense when he has to. He gives glimpses of a revving motor now and then.

Again, playing amid sub-NBA backup units is hurting his development, and though Brett Brown will try -- dude will try anything -- it's unlikely Okafor and Embiid can play much together. I'd be shocked if either Noel or Okafor were on the team at the start of the 2018-19 season, provided Embiid stays healthy.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Zach Lowe -- not an Okafor fan:

The same old Jahlil Okafor

Thank the basketball gods for Joel Embiid, and may they keep watch over Ben Simmons' foot. Okafor stagnating was predictable, and not some indicator that he's doomed to disappoint; he's only 20, the team around him is still bad, and he's surely depressed scrounging backup minutes behind the next big thing.

But it's OK to worry a little that his warts look just as unsightly as they did during his haywire rookie season. Okafor is still a black hole in the post. He's rebounding like a wing player, again. He's constantly late on rotations, and worse yet, when he realizes he's late, he doesn't exactly respond with urgency.

Okafor is never going to be a stopper, but he should be better than this. He's a smart player with good hands, vision, and enough athleticism to get his ass moving on defense when he has to. He gives glimpses of a revving motor now and then.

Again, playing amid sub-NBA backup units is hurting his development, and though Brett Brown will try -- dude will try anything -- it's unlikely Okafor and Embiid can play much together. I'd be shocked if either Noel or Okafor were on the team at the start of the 2018-19 season, provided Embiid stays healthy.

In the "process," they have systematically lowered the value of some of their key assets. Forcing Noel and Okafor to play together made their warts even more obvious. Noel couldn't shoot, but they forced him to try to develop his jumpshot next to Okafor. Now he is unhappy and obviously wanting to leave. This takes some leverage from the Sixers and gives it to whatever team wants to trade for him.

Now they obviously really want to develop Embiid, which forces Okafor to be nothing more than a sub for their star. If Okafor was lazy, Coach K wouldn't have recruited him. Okafor is obviously playing deflated and discouraged, which will happen when your organization is so clearly ambivalent to you. This is leading him to be especially weak in his weakest areas: defense and rebounding.

I still do believe that Okafor and Noel are starters in the NBA. In the right situation, I think both could be stars in their own way, but the trajectory of their careers right now is clearly to be role players.

The Sixers' organization is a sham. Yeah, yeah. I know. Their future is bright with Simmons and Embiid.

But I don't think we will truly understand the ramifications of "the process" until we have the full privilege of hindsight in 10 or 20 years. How many careers will they ruin by accumulating "assets"? How many careers will they ruin by developing players in a me-first-development system? Now that they have their "stars," will the entitlement corrupt Simmons and Embiid and hold them back from becoming winners?

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/Sixers/status/807646256671625216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Looks like Noel will make his season debut on Sunday against the Pistons. Something to keep an eye on moving forward.

[Moranis]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet. 

[tazzmaniac]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet.

Noel apparently sprained his ankle and didn't play in the 2nd half. 

[Smitty77]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet.

Noel rolled his ankle and will be OUT for a while it appears.

Smitty77

[moiso]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet.

Noel rolled his ankle and will be OUT for a while it appears.

Smitty77

So ridiculous.  Well he played 10 minutes at least

[Ed Hollison]

Look on the bright side: The Sixers look like a team destined to finish the season with a better record than the Nets.

[hwangjini_1]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet.

yep, giving him a 36 per of 28.8 points a game!!!! who said he isnt a scorer? 

[jpotter33]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/nba-trade-rumors-adrian-wojnarowski-links-boston-celtics-to-gordon-hayward-in-free-agency-says-nerlens-noel-stock-falling

But what kind of deal? Wojnarowski said that Philadelphia’s Nerlens Noel is seeing his stock drop across the league. The more teams see of him, Wojnarowski said, the less teams like him. 

“The research teams have done on him is not good,” Wojnarowski said. “They don’t get good reports back, their intel on how he’s carried himself there, of his habits. It’s not a great return, so there are teams willing to do a deal for him and bring him in, but they don’t want to give up much, so at some point there Philly’s gotta make a decision, ‘What’s the best we can get for him?’ I think at some point he probably moves, too.”

Looks like Noel might eventually go for peanuts. I still think he's a backup trade target for Danny after a Boogie trade that he's waiting on.

[moiso]

Well Sixers crushed the Pistons last night.  Embiid did not play.  Okafor got the start had 14 points, 9 boards in 27 minutes.  Noel scored 8 points in 10 minutes on 3 of 5 shooting (2-2 from the line).  He had a steal and a foul but nothing else in the stat sheet.

yep, giving him a 36 per of 28.8 points a game!!!! who said he isnt a scorer? 

And a per 36 of 0.0 reb a game!  This guy is all offense, no defense

[celticsclay]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/nba-trade-rumors-adrian-wojnarowski-links-boston-celtics-to-gordon-hayward-in-free-agency-says-nerlens-noel-stock-falling

But what kind of deal? Wojnarowski said that Philadelphia’s Nerlens Noel is seeing his stock drop across the league. The more teams see of him, Wojnarowski said, the less teams like him. 

“The research teams have done on him is not good,” Wojnarowski said. “They don’t get good reports back, their intel on how he’s carried himself there, of his habits. It’s not a great return, so there are teams willing to do a deal for him and bring him in, but they don’t want to give up much, so at some point there Philly’s gotta make a decision, ‘What’s the best we can get for him?’ I think at some point he probably moves, too.”

Looks like Noel might eventually go for peanuts. I still think he's a backup trade target for Danny after a Boogie trade that he's waiting on.

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