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I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« on: August 29, 2016, 06:36:46 PM »

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He's really starting to p--- me off. I know for a fact he didn't make it through Marine bootbcamp for whatever reason, but he's on Facebook totally fronting like a Marine veteran. Posting stuff like, "Once a Marine, always a Marine" and crap like that. Plus, he posts all this anti-Muslim propaganda. I have a good relationship with him, he doesn't talk or act like that when I'm with him at family events, but on Facebook he's a total DB. I have very little tolerance for Stolen Valor, and I'm not even a military veteran. What do, Celticsblog? I'm disgusted but I do not want a family problem.


Edit - He's 55 years old.
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Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 06:45:19 PM »

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He's really starting to p--- me off. I know for a fact he didn't make it through Marine bootbcamp for whatever reason, but he's on Facebook totally fronting like a Marine veteran. Posting stuff like, "Once a Marine, always a Marine" and crap like that. Plus, he posts all this anti-Muslim propaganda. I have a good relationship with him, he doesn't talk or act like that when I'm with him at family events, but on Facebook he's a total DB. I have very little tolerance for Stolen Valor, and I'm not even a military veteran. What do, Celticsblog? I'm disgusted but I do not want a family problem.


Edit - He's 55 years old.
Disown him.

Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 06:48:28 PM »

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People like that are not worth confronting because they're set in their ways and not open to a point of view that differs from theirs, no matter how convincing the evidence is. Your best option is to edit your Facebook settings to prevent any of his posts from showing up in your news feed.
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Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 06:56:22 PM »

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He's really starting to p--- me off. I know for a fact he didn't make it through Marine bootbcamp for whatever reason, but he's on Facebook totally fronting like a Marine veteran. Posting stuff like, "Once a Marine, always a Marine" and crap like that. Plus, he posts all this anti-Muslim propaganda. I have a good relationship with him, he doesn't talk or act like that when I'm with him at family events, but on Facebook he's a total DB. I have very little tolerance for Stolen Valor, and I'm not even a military veteran. What do, Celticsblog? I'm disgusted but I do not want a family problem.


Edit - He's 55 years old.
Disown him.

Easier said then done. He's at every family event.
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Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 06:56:24 PM »

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People like that are not worth confronting because they're set in their ways and not open to a point of view that differs from theirs, no matter how convincing the evidence is. Your best option is to edit your Facebook settings to prevent any of his posts from showing up in your news feed.
I agree.  I have started to block people that post manure I don't like.  I'm not changing their mind and they sure as heck aren't changing mine.  My Facebook feed is for me, no one else, and I'll make it what I want to see.

Interesting that he's not that way in person.  It's all too easy for people to hide behind their on-line persona.

Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 06:57:24 PM »

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People like that are not worth confronting because they're set in their ways and not open to a point of view that differs from theirs, no matter how convincing the evidence is. Your best option is to edit your Facebook settings to prevent any of his posts from showing up in your news feed.
I agree.  I have started to block people that post manure I don't like.  I'm not changing their mind and they sure as heck aren't changing mine.  My Facebook feed is for me, no one else, and I'll make it what I want to see.

Interesting that he's not that way in person.  It's all too easy for people to hide behind their on-line persona.

And just allow him to continue to fool people into thinking he's a veteran?
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Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 07:01:24 PM »

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Well depending on how the military views the status of people in boot camp, he might've actually been "once a Marine".  :)

In reality there isn't much you can do but just block the guy - based on my experiences, calling him out has a 90+% chance of giving you a jumbo cone full of absurd rationalization and unhinged vitriol swirl, plus seriously damaging a relationship with a guy you seem to get along with offline.  People don't get that way by being openminded toward any kind of outside point of view no matter how politely or factually it's presented.  It's best just to block him and maybe privately roll your eyes with a sympathetic family member.

What is it with FB and crazy uncles anyway?  My wife and I both have families who are mostly very reasonable about how they do their politics on there - meaning politely and thoughtfully or not at all - but she's got an uncle whose entire family has blocked him for doing this stuff and I have one who'd be in the same boat if he didn't think social media was a government conspiracy.  And just about everybody else seems to have one too.

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 07:06:54 PM »

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People like that are not worth confronting because they're set in their ways and not open to a point of view that differs from theirs, no matter how convincing the evidence is. Your best option is to edit your Facebook settings to prevent any of his posts from showing up in your news feed.
I agree.  I have started to block people that post manure I don't like.  I'm not changing their mind and they sure as heck aren't changing mine.  My Facebook feed is for me, no one else, and I'll make it what I want to see.

Interesting that he's not that way in person.  It's all too easy for people to hide behind their on-line persona.

And just allow him to continue to fool people into thinking he's a veteran?

You have two options.

(1) Ignore it. Which is not the same as accepting it but you're doing so to try to keep family peace.

(2) Do the moral thing and confront him the next time he lies or posts something bigoted. Be prepared for the inevitable family blow-back however.

Personally, I'd go with the second option. I hate bigotry. I'm not so worried about his faking his service - unless he's receiving benefits for it then he's not doing anything illegal - but I believe in standing up for what's right. Which means confronting prejudice when it's presented. This tends to come from me being a minority. I'm no SJW but I'll be [dang]ed if I put up with naked bigotry. And if members of the family don't like it, well...screw 'em. And if while confronting bigotry I can use his Stolen Valor to make him look like even more of an ass, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 07:08:00 PM »

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People like that are not worth confronting because they're set in their ways and not open to a point of view that differs from theirs, no matter how convincing the evidence is. Your best option is to edit your Facebook settings to prevent any of his posts from showing up in your news feed.
I agree.  I have started to block people that post manure I don't like.  I'm not changing their mind and they sure as heck aren't changing mine.  My Facebook feed is for me, no one else, and I'll make it what I want to see.

Interesting that he's not that way in person.  It's all too easy for people to hide behind their on-line persona.

And just allow him to continue to fool people into thinking he's a veteran?

Unless you really want the inevitable headache of the aftermath to be your problem, I'd let sleeping dogs lie here. 

Let someone else blow up his spot and deal with the mess.


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Re: I have an islamophobic, valor stealing, uncle.
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 07:29:03 PM »

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"Once a Marine, always a Marine

Unless you graduate, I doubt your considered a Marine.   I know it is that way in the Army, they even have a chapter (discharge) for guys who were unfit for service, unless it was medical and caused by the service it is usually not good.

http://girightshotline.org/en/military-knowledge-base/topic/entry-level-performance-and-conduct-discharge-entry-level-separa

Note not honorable, not dishonorable.

There are people who are always going to hate, JSD.  As a veteran, we can usually smell one another out, and 9 times out of 10 I can tell when someone is lying about it.   To get Vet stuff in society usually you have to prove it with a DD214 and ID card.

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 07:36:23 PM »

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I think there are many, many people who lead others to believe something about themselves that isn't exactly true.  If the deception is bascally hurting no one -- it may be annoying but is probably better viewed as  pathetic than offensive.  Confronting the deception may either be terribly  embarrassing or may cause a defensive response that could be ugly.   Depending on how close you are and how much you care about him, it may produce no discernable benefit other than getting your annoyance with him off your chest.   

The anti-Muslim thing is another story.  This does perpetuate hatred and there are victims.   I think I might share with him my disagreement with his views and tell him I plan to block him if he continues the bigoted posts.  This is what I'd like to think I'd do, but in reality I'd probably avoid the confrontation and would just be cordial and distant at family events.

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 07:51:42 PM »

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He sounds like a legend... and worth developing an even closer relationship with.

Link me to his page? I like crazy.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 07:53:48 PM »

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call it out. family doesn't get a pass for bigotry.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 08:42:49 PM »

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Just unfollow him and never like or react to anything he says. I wouldn't worry about it. I really wouldn't.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2016, 09:02:35 PM »

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something about love and hate and apathy or whatever..
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