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Who should be more embarassed regarding the James Young draft pick, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?

Danny... He drafted James Young.
21 (42.9%)
Bill Simmons - He nearly lost his job on TV fist-pumping this smoking turd of a pick..
15 (30.6%)
Both are still right, James Young is a future league MVP.
7 (14.3%)
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6 (12.2%)

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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2016, 11:53:53 PM »

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The tone of this thread is silly.  It was always a gamble pick and it was a good one.
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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2016, 07:40:54 AM »

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Me. I thought he would be pushing for the starting job by now instead he may not make the cut.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2016, 07:42:42 AM »

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In 3 years I bet young is averaging something like 13 points a game somewhere.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2016, 08:20:55 AM »

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I think the person, most embarassed should be James Young.  This is a classic case of someone who should have perhaps stayed in school.   He has had some PT, but not performed well in these chances.   I applaud him for working on his body.

Ainge provided him with an opportunity.   It was a solid pick at the time.  I do not recall that many folks thinking it was a bad pick.  Draft picks always involve risk so it is part of the business.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2016, 09:00:03 AM »

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Simmons.  He's the only one that 'embarrassed' could apply to.  The fist-pump was stupid.  Frankly, as a Celtics fan, I was embarrassed.

Ainge and Young himself should not be embarrassed.  They are both trying to do their job and each came up a little short, that's all, no reason for embarrassment.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2016, 10:04:28 AM »

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Neither. Show me a GM or fan who has never been wrong about a draft pick.

Also, James Young is still young, and he looked much better at least shooting wise in summer league. There is still hope for him.

That is kind of funny that he still has his supporters. He looked better than what? And the "he's still young" thing is really getting "old". He's a bust. Time to move on.

I take it you didn't follow the summer league. He was a much, much better shooter this summer than he has shown in the past.

I watched the summer league and he was still bad. His whole overall game is terrible. Are you hoping that he can hang around long enough to camp out in the corner and hit an open uncontested 3? I have no more time to waste on this kid.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2016, 10:28:56 AM »

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Young goes in the same bin as Fab Melo and Triple J

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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2016, 11:02:22 AM »

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Neither option.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2016, 11:06:35 AM »

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I think the person, most embarassed should be James Young.  This is a classic case of someone who should have perhaps stayed in school.   He has had some PT, but not performed well in these chances.   I applaud him for working on his body.

Ainge provided him with an opportunity.   It was a solid pick at the time.  I do not recall that many folks thinking it was a bad pick.  Draft picks always involve risk so it is part of the business.

Yup, Ainge swung for the fences in a tough spot, and Young has totally failed to improve/expand his game. He should be embarrassed
I'm bitter.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2016, 11:17:07 AM »

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Neither. Show me a GM or fan who has never been wrong about a draft pick.

Also, James Young is still young, and he looked much better at least shooting wise in summer league. There is still hope for him.

That is kind of funny that he still has his supporters. He looked better than what? And the "he's still young" thing is really getting "old". He's a bust. Time to move on.

I take it you didn't follow the summer league. He was a much, much better shooter this summer than he has shown in the past.

I watched the summer league and he was still bad. His whole overall game is terrible. Are you hoping that he can hang around long enough to camp out in the corner and hit an open uncontested 3? I have no more time to waste on this kid.

It's hard for some to admit that Ainge is ever wrong.

Get used to it.
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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2016, 11:19:36 AM »

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Neither. Show me a GM or fan who has never been wrong about a draft pick.

Also, James Young is still young, and he looked much better at least shooting wise in summer league. There is still hope for him.

That is kind of funny that he still has his supporters. He looked better than what? And the "he's still young" thing is really getting "old". He's a bust. Time to move on.

I take it you didn't follow the summer league. He was a much, much better shooter this summer than he has shown in the past.

I watched the summer league and he was still bad. His whole overall game is terrible. Are you hoping that he can hang around long enough to camp out in the corner and hit an open uncontested 3? I have no more time to waste on this kid.

It's hard for some to admit that Ainge is ever wrong.

Get used to it.

Ditto for some and admitting that Ainge is ever right
I'm bitter.

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2016, 11:52:01 AM »

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Somebody is giving DA bad advice

Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2016, 12:04:05 PM »

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Neither. Show me a GM or fan who has never been wrong about a draft pick.

Also, James Young is still young, and he looked much better at least shooting wise in summer league. There is still hope for him.

That is kind of funny that he still has his supporters. He looked better than what? And the "he's still young" thing is really getting "old". He's a bust. Time to move on.

I take it you didn't follow the summer league. He was a much, much better shooter this summer than he has shown in the past.

I watched the summer league and he was still bad. His whole overall game is terrible. Are you hoping that he can hang around long enough to camp out in the corner and hit an open uncontested 3? I have no more time to waste on this kid.

It's hard for some to admit that Ainge is ever wrong.

Get used to it.

We KNOW he's wrong from time to time. Any GM is. Even if you were GM, you'd be wrong at times (might I add, a LOT of times).

But he's also been right. A TON of times. You probably don't know what I'm talking about because you've filled yourself with so much hatred and enmity for Ainge, that you've been essentially blind to all the many good moves he makes. This was a gamble move. It didn't work. Move on. Every GM takes gambles, and every gamble has a good chance of not working out. It happens all the time.
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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2016, 12:21:13 PM »

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Neither. Show me a GM or fan who has never been wrong about a draft pick.

Also, James Young is still young, and he looked much better at least shooting wise in summer league. There is still hope for him.

That is kind of funny that he still has his supporters. He looked better than what? And the "he's still young" thing is really getting "old". He's a bust. Time to move on.

I take it you didn't follow the summer league. He was a much, much better shooter this summer than he has shown in the past.

I watched the summer league and he was still bad. His whole overall game is terrible. Are you hoping that he can hang around long enough to camp out in the corner and hit an open uncontested 3? I have no more time to waste on this kid.

It's hard for some to admit that Ainge is ever wrong.

Get used to it.
please name a single poster here who agrees with ainge 100%, or never sees him as making a mistake.

you try to make a broad and overly general statement more compelling by invoking a straw man to support your view. please dont do that, it doesnt help your arguments.
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Re: James Young: Who should be more embarassed, Danny Ainge or Bill Simmons?
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2016, 01:17:42 PM »

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The poll should also be re-worded. Option 3 is highly biased. Nobody ever said he was a future league MVP. Why not just say he is still a future starter, which is about what anyone hopes for from a pick in that range?

Per your request I have modified the poll.