What's this thread about now? I want to make a hot take.
Basically moranis is saying Covington is good or better than KO while also arguing that Henry Sims had good per 36 numbers before being cut by the nets, KJ mcdabiels has good 36 numbed despite being unable to crack the rotation and saying MCW has improved his efficiency or something
Is the comparing of KO to Covington intended to suggest KO is one of our wasted assets - since we used a lotto pick on him?
Nope. That was a result of someone questioning the following analysis I made of the 2013 draft:
2013 - Olynyk (in a redraft he probably goes around 15, though ahead of most of the guys taken before him, just behind a lot of guys taken after him - so I will call this about average performance)
Thus I was challenged to support my contention that KO would go around 15. I had initially forgotten about Dellavedova and Covington and mentioned them after a few posts, and thus we have now had 2 pages of posts comparing Covington and Olynyk.
BTW, below is my full Celtics draft analysis since Boston got good i.e. the 2008 draft to present. The post was originally on page 3 of the thread
How many people that Ainge has drafted starting with the 2008 draft have actually overperformed? How many were so bad they didn't even last their rookie contract?
2008 - Giddens (horrible), Erden (solid, though just 69 games total, but for pick 60 that isn't bad)
2009 - Hudson (same as Erden basically)
2010 - Bradley (overperformed), Harangody (same as Erden basically)
2011 - JJJ (horrible), Moore (overperformed - real nice value for end of 2nd round)
2012 - Sullinger (overperformed, though no longer on team), Melo (underperformed), Joseph (about average)
2013 - Olynyk (in a redraft he probably goes around 15, though ahead of most of the guys taken before him, just behind a lot of guys taken after him - so I will call this about average performance)
2014 - Smart (fairly early, but at this point looks more like the 10th pick than the 6th pick so I'll call that underperformed), Young (underperformed)
2015 - Rozier (probably too early to call Rozier), Hunter (if he gets cut then he underperformed)
In the last 8 drafts (before this past summer), Bradley, Sullinger, and Moore were excellent picks for their draft position, but that is pretty much it (and Moore was on the team for one year and Sullinger didn't get a second contract). That is a terrible track record and the recent one is all that matters. It doesn't matter that 10+ years ago he hit on Jefferson, Perkins, Davis, and Rondo because those drafts were so long ago (he also had a few stinkers in there some of which that actually worked out over time though not for Boston like Green and Allen).
Put it this way, Ainge has had 3 1st round picks in those 8 drafts, play less than 1 full season combined and none of the 3 was a draft and stash player. That is frankly unbelievable.
Ainge does a great job trading and generating future assets, but he has done a pretty poor job turning those future assets into actual assets and that is what matters far more.