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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #165 on: March 09, 2017, 06:31:58 PM »

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Isaac self destructing down the stretch

I wonder if it has to do with his asthma like condition?

something is not right vs how he started the year



 Yes, saw the asthma earlier this year. Not cool. Off my top five for sure.
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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #166 on: March 09, 2017, 10:29:16 PM »

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Nice article about Isaac. I'm warming to this kid; he kinda fits with where the Celtics are too, i.e. not in need of guards, and not in need of guys (Ball, Fultz) who will demand big playing time...

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/mensbasketball/2017/03/08/clark-nothing-normal-jonathan-isaac/98911474/

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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #167 on: March 09, 2017, 10:34:06 PM »

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Nice article about Isaac. I'm warming to this kid; he kinda fits with where the Celtics are too, i.e. not in need of guards, and not in need of guys (Ball, Fultz) who will demand big playing time...

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/mensbasketball/2017/03/08/clark-nothing-normal-jonathan-isaac/98911474/

Why wouldnt we be in need of guys that can demand big playing time early? I think that would be a huge bonus

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #168 on: March 09, 2017, 10:45:00 PM »

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If we fall back to 3 or 4 Issac would be perfect for us. We basically get an upgraded Kelly Olynyk.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #169 on: March 09, 2017, 11:11:28 PM »

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If we fall back to 3 or 4 Issac would be perfect for us. We basically get an upgraded Kelly Olynyk.

If we fell to 3 or 4 and ended up with Isaac I would feel like all this attention on this pick would have been a waste

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #170 on: March 09, 2017, 11:35:05 PM »

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Nice article about Isaac. I'm warming to this kid; he kinda fits with where the Celtics are too, i.e. not in need of guards, and not in need of guys (Ball, Fultz) who will demand big playing time...

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/mensbasketball/2017/03/08/clark-nothing-normal-jonathan-isaac/98911474/

Why wouldnt we be in need of guys that can demand big playing time early? I think that would be a huge bonus

I think you missed my point. Fultz, and especially Ball, will want to play 30 minutes every night from Day 1. We simply won't be able to offer that because our guard rotation includes a superstar, and NBA all-defense guy, a guy with 1 more year of NBA experience, and a Cobra. Even if Terry gets moved on draft day for a big, the pick will not be playing more than 5-15 minutes each night. That is just a reality.

It's a virtually unprecedented situation where the 2 seed (maybe 1?) has one of the best guard rotations in the league, probably the #1 pick in the draft, and the top prospects are all guards.
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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #171 on: March 09, 2017, 11:37:09 PM »

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If we fall back to 3 or 4 Issac would be perfect for us. We basically get an upgraded Kelly Olynyk.

If we fell to 3 or 4 and ended up with Isaac I would feel like all this attention on this pick would have been a waste

Let's not tempt fate champ. In the words of Lenny Kravitz, you just got to believe.
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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #172 on: March 10, 2017, 12:04:55 AM »

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Nice article about Isaac. I'm warming to this kid; he kinda fits with where the Celtics are too, i.e. not in need of guards, and not in need of guys (Ball, Fultz) who will demand big playing time...

http://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/fsu/mensbasketball/2017/03/08/clark-nothing-normal-jonathan-isaac/98911474/

Why wouldnt we be in need of guys that can demand big playing time early? I think that would be a huge bonus

I think you missed my point. Fultz, and especially Ball, will want to play 30 minutes every night from Day 1. We simply won't be able to offer that because our guard rotation includes a superstar, and NBA all-defense guy, a guy with 1 more year of NBA experience, and a Cobra. Even if Terry gets moved on draft day for a big, the pick will not be playing more than 5-15 minutes each night. That is just a reality.

It's a virtually unprecedented situation where the 2 seed (maybe 1?) has one of the best guard rotations in the league, probably the #1 pick in the draft, and the top prospects are all guards.

Yeah I looked at it more from the standpoint of saying that they would be ready to play those type of min so they would command them. I get what you are saying.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #173 on: March 10, 2017, 10:13:14 AM »

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He didn't shoot well, but still a workmanlike performance in his first ACC Tourney game.

11 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 2 blocks!!!  (4-13 shooting overall and 1-4 from three).

I still think that this kid fits us FAR better than Fultz or Ball.  That being said, I can see how Josh Jackson fits the Celtics' bill and this team's work ethic and personality.  But, in a way, so does Issac!!

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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #174 on: March 10, 2017, 12:04:43 PM »

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He didn't shoot well, but still a workmanlike performance in his first ACC Tourney game.

11 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 2 blocks!!!  (4-13 shooting overall and 1-4 from three).

I still think that this kid fits us FAR better than Fultz or Ball.  That being said, I can see how Josh Jackson fits the Celtics' bill and this team's work ethic and personality.  But, in a way, so does Issac!!

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to be clear, you would take this kid over Fultz if given the chance?
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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #175 on: March 10, 2017, 12:39:41 PM »

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If we land at 4, I think our chances of packaging the pick in a trade for Butler/George increases greatly.  Unless there is something "understood" from Hayward camp about signing as FA.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #176 on: March 10, 2017, 01:38:17 PM »

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He didn't shoot well, but still a workmanlike performance in his first ACC Tourney game.

11 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, and 2 blocks!!!  (4-13 shooting overall and 1-4 from three).

I still think that this kid fits us FAR better than Fultz or Ball.  That being said, I can see how Josh Jackson fits the Celtics' bill and this team's work ethic and personality.  But, in a way, so does Issac!!

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to be clear, you would take this kid over Fultz if given the chance?

I am NOT sure, but I am SURE that is is closer for me than most.   More than Ball, likely yes.  More than Jackson??  I doubt it.

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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #177 on: March 10, 2017, 02:46:45 PM »

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My guys in order

1 Ball
2 Fultz
2 Jackson could go either way between Jackson and Fultz and believe Ball is only slightly ahead of both of those guys because of his floor vision and passing
4 Tatum
5 Smith
6 Monk
7 Markkanen
8 Issac

And I don't see a guaranteed superstar(eventual top 5 NBA player) in the bunch.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #178 on: March 10, 2017, 10:45:18 PM »

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Yeah I hearya take this guy over Tatum or Jackson. I cant see that at all.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #179 on: March 20, 2017, 04:33:59 PM »

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Not trying to poke a beehive, but it's awful quiet on this thread after Isaac fouled out in a loss vs. 12 seed Xavier (without their best player) with 8 points on 7 shots.  Is there anyone out there that still thinks we should draft this kid, a project IMO, over Fultz, Jackson, Ball and Tatum? 
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