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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #135 on: February 09, 2017, 06:08:30 PM »

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If Phil gets 3 and 4 . I would trade #1 or #2 with Zeller and Bradley for Noel and 3 and 4. Draft Isaac and Tatum/Jackson . That would give you bigs of Hartford-AJ-Kelly-Noel-Zizic and Isaac.
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Get fa like Hayward or big SG.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #136 on: February 09, 2017, 06:14:54 PM »

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I am PRAYING the Lakers fall out of the top 3, and Philly picks up their pick.

I think Philly would throw an all-in type of trade offer at us for #1 or #2 to have Fultz or Ball

Say the Lakers fall to 4, and Philly stays around the 5-8 range.

We offer #1 or #2 pick for #4, #7, Dario Saric, and Lawawu.

We can then take two of Isaac, Tatum, Jackson, Smith, Monk, Giles, etc.

Isaac is starting to look like a KD-lite type of player. Totally worth the trade down from Fultz, especially considering every hypothetical dream trade is having the Celtics go after an athletic, scoring wing.
Not happening. No way Ainge adds the 4 players you suggest(all rookies and 2nd year players) to 3 other rookies(Yab, Zizic and Nader) and 2 other 2nd year players(Brown and Jackson). We are not in full rebound mode.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #137 on: February 10, 2017, 11:45:49 AM »

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I am PRAYING the Lakers fall out of the top 3, and Philly picks up their pick.

I think Philly would throw an all-in type of trade offer at us for #1 or #2 to have Fultz or Ball

Say the Lakers fall to 4, and Philly stays around the 5-8 range.

We offer #1 or #2 pick for #4, #7, Dario Saric, and Lawawu.

We can then take two of Isaac, Tatum, Jackson, Smith, Monk, Giles, etc.

Isaac is starting to look like a KD-lite type of player. Totally worth the trade down from Fultz, especially considering every hypothetical dream trade is having the Celtics go after an athletic, scoring wing.
Not happening. No way Ainge adds the 4 players you suggest(all rookies and 2nd year players) to 3 other rookies(Yab, Zizic and Nader) and 2 other 2nd year players(Brown and Jackson). We are not in full rebound mode.

Cut Jackson, Young and Mickey. Nader, whatever.  Stash Yab for another year, I think he needs it regardless.  Thomas, Horford, Bradley, Crowder, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Olynyk, Jackson, Isaac, Zizic, Saric, Luwawu.  You can still keep Jerebko and Johnson for veteran backups and have a veteran core with a talented young bench.

I doubt you'd get that much for Fultz/Ball, but I'd certainly do it.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #138 on: February 10, 2017, 12:05:11 PM »

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Notice that Isaac has the highest PER of anyone in the first round EXCEPT for John Collins from Wake Forest University (a sleeper to watch)!!!!

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

John Collins can flat play!!!!  Watch a WFU game and let me know your thoughts.

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Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #139 on: February 10, 2017, 12:34:14 PM »

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Wish someone could convince me he is something better than the next Rashard Lewis.

Just see this guy as a role player type. Not a key starter type.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #140 on: February 10, 2017, 12:40:55 PM »

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Wish someone could convince me he is something better than the next Rashard Lewis.

Just see this guy as a role player type. Not a key starter type.

In his prime Rashard Lewis was definitely a key starter type.  He had 3 years in a row of averaging 20 points on efficient shooting, with decent rebounding from the 3, and a couple of years on either side in which he was only marginally less good.  He wasn't a two-time All-Star by accident.

Not a guy you want at #1 overall, but you good do worse at #4.

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« Reply #141 on: February 10, 2017, 12:50:46 PM »

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If Phil gets 3 and 4 . I would trade #1 or #2 with Zeller and Bradley for Noel and 3 and 4. Draft Isaac and Tatum/Jackson . That would give you bigs of Hartford-AJ-Kelly-Noel-Zizic and Isaac.
MIds Crowder--Brown-Mickey-Tatum/Jackson and Smalls IT-Smart-Rozier-Jackson-Nader


Get fa like Hayward or big SG.
I like this, Isaac+Jackson for Fultz/Ball, AB for Noel

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #142 on: February 10, 2017, 01:20:38 PM »

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If Phil gets 3 and 4 . I would trade #1 or #2 with Zeller and Bradley for Noel and 3 and 4. Draft Isaac and Tatum/Jackson . That would give you bigs of Hartford-AJ-Kelly-Noel-Zizic and Isaac.
MIds Crowder--Brown-Mickey-Tatum/Jackson and Smalls IT-Smart-Rozier-Jackson-Nader


Get fa like Hayward or big SG.
I like this, Isaac+Jackson for Fultz/Ball, AB for Noel

If this is post lottery, wouldn't Noel be a free agent by then?

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #143 on: February 10, 2017, 04:26:24 PM »

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If Phil gets 3 and 4 . I would trade #1 or #2 with Zeller and Bradley for Noel and 3 and 4. Draft Isaac and Tatum/Jackson . That would give you bigs of Hartford-AJ-Kelly-Noel-Zizic and Isaac.
MIds Crowder--Brown-Mickey-Tatum/Jackson and Smalls IT-Smart-Rozier-Jackson-Nader


Get fa like Hayward or big SG.
I like this, Isaac+Jackson for Fultz/Ball, AB for Noel

If this is post lottery, wouldn't Noel be a free agent by then?
Yes he would.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2017, 05:05:09 PM »

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nba draft june 22  Noel would become a restricked free agent on July1


Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2017, 05:07:04 PM »

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nba draft june 22  Noel would become a restricked free agent on July1

You can not trade any pending free agents after the trade deadline.  Noel must be traded in two weeks, or not at all.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2017, 07:01:15 PM »

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Until end of season ? Restricted on july1. Philly can place qualfying offer .

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2017, 07:04:02 PM »

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until nd of season

Respectfully, you don't seem to know what you're taking about.  But let's get back to talking about Mr. Issac, shall we?

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #148 on: February 11, 2017, 10:43:48 AM »

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The thought of Issac or Jackson on the court with Jaylen at the 2/3 makes me salivate.

Dunks and fast breaks all day.

Re: Jonathan Issac Thread (Merged)
« Reply #149 on: February 12, 2017, 04:12:04 PM »

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Wish someone could convince me he is something better than the next Rashard Lewis.

Just see this guy as a role player type. Not a key starter type.

In his prime Rashard Lewis was definitely a key starter type.  He had 3 years in a row of averaging 20 points on efficient shooting, with decent rebounding from the 3, and a couple of years on either side in which he was only marginally less good.  He wasn't a two-time All-Star by accident.

Not a guy you want at #1 overall, but you good do worse at #4.

Yeah, add Rashard Lewis in his prime on the celtics right now at the 4 alongside Horford and Celtics would be a contender against the Cavs.

Rashard Lewis would be way better in today's NBA too.  It was unfortunate that he had to play PF in an era where talented guys with size like KG, Tim Duncan, Dirk, Amare, Zach Randolph, and Elton Brand were all starting PFs in the league.  KG absolutely dominated him.

But he was still able to punish slower PFs like Big Baby in 2009 that couldn't dominate him on the other end.
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