Keith Smith's latest rumor updates out of vegas...C's not finished yet.

[feckless]

I would trade all assets plus Danny & Wyc to end up with Horford, Griffin and Westbrook.

[LarBrd33]

Lol

[ThaPreacher]

I would trade all assets plus Danny & Wyc to end up with Horford, Griffin and Westbrook.

Ainge is worth a first round draft choice for compensation.  Wyc only late 2nd Round pick and a few sparklers and firecrackers.

[alldaboston]

Smitty is like some of the others with anonymous sources. People who are involved with  the NBA and have an ear to the talk. Maybe even leakers. These are probably rumors with some legs to them. Though the details aren't perfect. Kind of like the Deep Throat guy in the Watergate scandal.

Beat writers for teams--guys like Bulpett, can't report this stuff. They can only report what the team approves. Indeed, even guys like Bulpett could be an "anonymous source"!

Agree. Heck, Smitty was the very first guy to report the Blake talks.
Then it was confirmed by Sean Deveney (who remains the only person who said there were recent talks). FWIW, Deveney was also the first to report the Green signing.

[Bobshot]

I would trade all assets plus Danny & Wyc to end up with Horford, Griffin and Westbrook.

I would roll the dice and get them for the rumored deals without extensions. Doc and Sam Presti might jump at this. That would make a helluva team which would go deep into playoffs. Incentive for them to re-sign, especially with re-signing benefits Celtics would have.

You have to be one step ahead of everybody else to get what you want.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Both are NOT available...Both ARE available...who knows what to believe--?

There are Good reasons to trade these guys if you are their current team....Heck, Philly should NOT deal Okafor until the trade deadline--cause who knows how many games Embiid will play.

[aingeforthree]

I would trade all assets plus Danny & Wyc to end up with Horford, Griffin and Westbrook.

Ainge is worth a first round draft choice for compensation.  Wyc only late 2nd Round pick and a few sparklers and firecrackers.

Ainge is worth 3 Brooklyn first rounders. Not many franchises have this smart of a man running the ship. He's a game changer, especially for someone like Sacramento

[LarBrd33]

Both are NOT available...Both ARE available...who knows what to believe--?

There are Good reasons to trade these guys if you are their current team....Heck, Philly should NOT deal Okafor until the trade deadline--cause who knows how many games Embiid will play.

I haven't seen a single legitimate source say either of these guys are available.  Every legitimate media person who has wasted time on this has said the rumors are fake, nothing is happening, and neither is available.

That could change.  But we're just guessing.

Logically, I would assume Westbrook is more likely to become available, because there seems to be a real possibility he leaves OKC.  People have been talking about it for a while.  So maybe he gets moved this season.    I'm not totally seeing why Blake would get traded, though.  Unless he secretly hates it there and plans on leaving the Clippers, why would they move him?  It would make more sense for them to build around Blake and trade Chris Paul, if anything.  And it doesn't seem like he's on the outs.  Wasn't he part of their recruiting party in their meeting with Durant?

[tyrone biggums]

My sources might be slightly less credible. My dogs sources are probably more credible. It's funny how people fall for this stuff. Nothing to see here. Although it is entertaining.

[oldtype]

I know this guy is supposed to be semi-credible but the way he phrases it just makes me think he's making it all up.

[clover]

Interesting...i don't buy that last bit about Brown backing Pierce up on opening night. Paul Pierce is out of gas, as much of a legend as he is around these parts.

I can see the Amir/Crowder trade happening. I don't want to see it happen, but it makes too much sense. We need better big men and Danny really likes that BRK pick for '17.

Don't deal Brown. That kid works way too hard to not be at least of some use. He'll get real good developing under Brad Stevens.

This guy's "sources" all seem to come from the Clips (Doc's habit of blabbing apparently permeating through the organization)-so it's not surprising they'd try to palm the idea of Pierce not being completely spent by now--and even push the fantasy that he could somehow credibly start in the league somewhere next year.

[chambers]

Smitty is like some of the others with anonymous sources. People who are involved with  the NBA and have an ear to the talk. Maybe even leakers. These are probably rumors with some legs to them. Though the details aren't perfect. Kind of like the Deep Throat guy in the Watergate scandal.

Beat writers for teams--guys like Bulpett, can't report this stuff. They can only report what the team approves. Indeed, even guys like Bulpett could be an "anonymous source"!

Agree. Heck, Smitty was the very first guy to report the Blake talks.
Then it was confirmed by Sean Deveney (who remains the only person who said there were recent talks). FWIW, Deveney was also the first to report the Green signing.

So far he's been right about:
- Sully leaving
-signing zeller to the additional year
-guaranteeing Jackson for one year

 Not astounding but certainly not making this stuff up. He's just relaying what he's been told. Who knows what level of connectedness applies.

[saltlover]

Smitty is like some of the others with anonymous sources. People who are involved with  the NBA and have an ear to the talk. Maybe even leakers. These are probably rumors with some legs to them. Though the details aren't perfect. Kind of like the Deep Throat guy in the Watergate scandal.

Beat writers for teams--guys like Bulpett, can't report this stuff. They can only report what the team approves. Indeed, even guys like Bulpett could be an "anonymous source"!

Agree. Heck, Smitty was the very first guy to report the Blake talks.
Then it was confirmed by Sean Deveney (who remains the only person who said there were recent talks). FWIW, Deveney was also the first to report the Green signing.

So far he's been right about:
- Sully leaving
-signing zeller to the additional year
-guaranteeing Jackson for one year

 Not astounding but certainly not making this stuff up. He's just relaying what he's been told. Who knows what level of connectedness applies.

No offense, but the "Sully leaving" thing was him reading an NBA transactions report.  I had started a thread two days earlier saying either he or Zeller had to have been rescinded on that Friday.  This was not anything special.

Zeller getting a 1+1 deal was also highly logical, especially once Sully was out of the picture.  Again, it's something that I and many posters have been saying was possible for weeks if not months.

I didn't see him saying Jackson gets the first year guaranteed, but some Boston beat writer tweeted on draft night (Himmelsbach I think) that Jackson was going to be on the Celtics this year, so again, saying that Jackson would get a year guaranteed is wholly unimpressive.  One could have concluded the same thing from reading the tweets of maligned beat writers who apparently aren't allowed to say anything ever, according to this thread.

Finally, as I pointed out at the beginning of this thread, neither of the two proposals he's "hearing" for Griffin work with the salary cap.  So I can say, point blank, that neither deal will happen.  He theoretically maintains a database of everyone's salaries, so it shouldn't be difficult to realize that there's a problem with his information before reporting it, but he either doesn't know enough to realize it or doesn't care.  Neither is a good luck for someone trying to convince people that he's "in the know."

[oldtype]

Also, If...

1. This person has actual sources
2. Those people give him inside information in confidence
3. He immediately blurts them out on RealGM

You have to assume that those people would never talk to him again.

The bigtime journalists with sources get advance information specifically for the purpose of releasing because teams want to use them to announce things to the media. That's what a plausible journalist-source relationship looks like. Why would you tell this guy if your info isn't going to be secret, but won't be leaked in a manner beneficial to you either because it will only be seen by people who go to a Celtics message board?

[hwangjini_1]

Smitty is like some of the others with anonymous sources. People who are involved with  the NBA and have an ear to the talk. Maybe even leakers. These are probably rumors with some legs to them. Though the details aren't perfect. Kind of like the Deep Throat guy in the Watergate scandal.

Beat writers for teams--guys like Bulpett, can't report this stuff. They can only report what the team approves. Indeed, even guys like Bulpett could be an "anonymous source"!

Agree. Heck, Smitty was the very first guy to report the Blake talks.
Then it was confirmed by Sean Deveney (who remains the only person who said there were recent talks). FWIW, Deveney was also the first to report the Green signing.

So far he's been right about:
- Sully leaving
-signing zeller to the additional year
-guaranteeing Jackson for one year

 Not astounding but certainly not making this stuff up. He's just relaying what he's been told. Who knows what level of connectedness applies.

No offense, but the "Sully leaving" thing was him reading an NBA transactions report.  I had started a thread two days earlier saying either he or Zeller had to have been rescinded on that Friday.  This was not anything special.

Zeller getting a 1+1 deal was also highly logical, especially once Sully was out of the picture.  Again, it's something that I and many posters have been saying was possible for weeks if not months.

I didn't see him saying Jackson gets the first year guaranteed, but some Boston beat writer tweeted on draft night (Himmelsbach I think) that Jackson was going to be on the Celtics this year, so again, saying that Jackson would get a year guaranteed is wholly unimpressive.  One could have concluded the same thing from reading the tweets of maligned beat writers who apparently aren't allowed to say anything ever, according to this thread.

Finally, as I pointed out at the beginning of this thread, neither of the two proposals he's "hearing" for Griffin work with the salary cap.  So I can say, point blank, that neither deal will happen.  He theoretically maintains a database of everyone's salaries, so it shouldn't be difficult to realize that there's a problem with his information before reporting it, but he either doesn't know enough to realize it or doesn't care.  Neither is a good luck for someone trying to convince people that he's "in the know."

So......  You're a sauce?